why would you do this to the Ice-breaker?

[Bills💊Pills]

The only reason people loved the ice breaker was because it regenerated its own ammo and you take that away? what a joke. You already have the most laughable ammo economy of any game I've ever played. The icebreaker always had your back in d1 solo clearing stuff. It's not even usable now. Even glimmer. Our shards for glimmer being taken away is unforgivable. Also air strikes in onslaught 50% of the time they just don't go off. Tired of this crap game hurry up with marathon.

[Coldhands]

Origineel geplaatst door Le Gabon:

I mean, considering how every other dungeon has a unique exotic (besides avarice, the throwback dungeon) yeah its pretty lazy. I probably wouldn't care as much if it was the season pass fodder exotic.

I mean, they tied new versions of D1 exotics to the D1 reprise raids. They're all redesigned guns, they aren't just the same thing we got in D1 again. And if they'd put Icebreaker on the season pass and the stasis grenade launcher in the new dungeon, would you be calling that lazy?
Icebreaker isn't particularly interesting to me, but it's still a new exotic gun.

[Weaselly]

You don't want old Ice Breaker in this game. You think you do, but I promise you, you don't; it'd be absolutely terrible for the health of the sandbox.

[Le Gabon]

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Origineel geplaatst door Le Gabon:

I mean, considering how every other dungeon has a unique exotic (besides avarice, the throwback dungeon) yeah its pretty lazy. I probably wouldn't care as much if it was the season pass fodder exotic.

I mean, they tied new versions of D1 exotics to the D1 reprise raids. They're all redesigned guns, they aren't just the same thing we got in D1 again. And if they'd put Icebreaker on the season pass and the stasis grenade launcher in the new dungeon, would you be calling that lazy?
Icebreaker isn't particularly interesting to me, but it's still a new exotic gun.

The reprise raids aren't behind a paywall though. And, even if they were, just because bungie has a precedent for doing it doesn't change anything. (What about....?)

[Coldhands]

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Origineel geplaatst door Coldhands:

I mean, they tied new versions of D1 exotics to the D1 reprise raids. They're all redesigned guns, they aren't just the same thing we got in D1 again. And if they'd put Icebreaker on the season pass and the stasis grenade launcher in the new dungeon, would you be calling that lazy?
Icebreaker isn't particularly interesting to me, but it's still a new exotic gun.

The reprise raids aren't behind a paywall though. And, even if they were, just because bungie has a precedent for doing it doesn't change anything. (What about....?)

You just said it wouldn't be lazy if Icebreaker was on the season pass, but that costs money too. Was Red Death lazy, as last season's pass exotic?
It's seems weird to call Bungie lazy for building a functionally new exotic just because they made it look like a D1 gun.

[Le Gabon]

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Origineel geplaatst door Le Gabon:

The reprise raids aren't behind a paywall though. And, even if they were, just because bungie has a precedent for doing it doesn't change anything. (What about....?)

You just said it wouldn't be lazy if Icebreaker was on the season pass, but that costs money too. Was Red Death lazy, as last season's pass exotic?
It's seems weird to call Bungie lazy for building a functionally new exotic just because they made it look like a D1 gun.

all the season pass exotics are available for free?

[Sainthill]

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Origineel geplaatst door Bills💊Pills:

The ammo regen was the ONLY reason it was ever used just a waste of a dungeon exotic now.

(now has incredible aoe potential and subclass synergy with new perk)

Cloudstrike near entire power crept by it? big aoe on kill AND free ammo gen And even more free ammo if you get catalyst? am i reading this correct? i thought the whole reason cloudstrike mission was available all week was for folks to get a farmable Icebreaker at home or close enough analogue if they cant beat dungeon or miss the drop chance for the week lol

[The Milk Daddy]

There is no denying the D2 variant is objectively stronger. They should have left ice Breaker to be D1 only and just made something new with this new exotic behavior- even if it ended up being a Crimson situation where everyone knew it was supposed to be the "Red Death at home". At least this would be acceptable instead of the nostalgia baiting this is.

I just wish they didn't release two ammo generation exotics at the same time. Sorta makes the two fight for power in a sense. Very strange choice to release the two at the same time when one is perhaps stronger and more versatile.

I might be forgetting something but imo Icebreaker doesn't seem very tied to the Dungeon all that much if at all. Would have been nicer if the exotic was more themed to it.

Warlords had the scorn crossbow

Ghosts had the Navigator

Duality has Heart Shadow

Shattered Throne kinda has Wish Ender, sorta.

Also Pit, Prophecy, and Grasp don't (I'm not counting Xeno, or Ghorn)

Point is that those exotics make sense for the earned/associated locations.