How will Song of Flame (Final Shape's warlock solar super) be any different/compete w/ Apotheosis Veil?

[Badger]

Apotheosis Veil in it's current state let's you throw 6 nades & 6 powered melees upon activating your super, in solar warlock context, you drop your well, and you get to throw 5-6 fusion nades + powered melees while ALSO keeping your well of radiance for you and your allies.

Song of Flame (the new warlock super) seems to be just that? you pop your super, and now you can spam your nades and melees, and the nades don't seem all that powerful tbh? and not only that, but the super is just that, you just get to spam nades and melees, you don't creating healing and support for your allies.

I really find it difficult to see how will the new super compete or even have a place in any content.

[Kylito]

Uhhh because I don't have to use a mediocre at best helmet? And can equip an actually good exotic that is useful outside of your super?

[N33MA]

Have to actually see how much damage it does before we can judge it.

[Zeno]

destiny 2 is bad game but i'm addicted to it how can i fix that

[luigistyle]

Originally posted by Zeno:

destiny 2 is bad game but i'm addicted to it how can i fix that

too late now you should have quit before they made people get hyped again

[Fillinek]

It isnt just spam your abilities like apotheosis.
It adds extra projectiles to your meele's (so more dmg), it changes your nade to a phoenix of sorts (probably more dmg), it also provides the same ability regen like apotheosis but for longer probably AND it provides you and all of your allies scortching rounds (all solar weapons now apply scortch with each shot)

[Weaselly]

Originally posted by Fillinek:

It isnt just spam your abilities like apotheosis.
It adds extra projectiles to your meele's (so more dmg), it changes your nade to a phoenix of sorts (probably more dmg), it also provides the same ability regen like apotheosis but for longer probably AND it provides you and all of your allies scortching rounds (all solar weapons now apply scortch with each shot)

Yeah I'll be real, I see the reverse problem that OP does - since iirc Well is getting nerfed, how will Apotheosis compete lmao

[Fillinek]

Originally posted by Weaselly:

Originally posted by Fillinek:

It isnt just spam your abilities like apotheosis.
It adds extra projectiles to your meele's (so more dmg), it changes your nade to a phoenix of sorts (probably more dmg), it also provides the same ability regen like apotheosis but for longer probably AND it provides you and all of your allies scortching rounds (all solar weapons now apply scortch with each shot)

Yeah I'll be real, I see the reverse problem that OP does - since iirc Well is getting nerfed, how will Apotheosis compete lmao

Depends on how they nerf well, cuz no matter the nerf, as long as it heals faster than the rift people will use it, the dmg nerf would just force the team to have a bubble titan

[Badger]

Originally posted by Fillinek:

It isnt just spam your abilities like apotheosis.
It adds extra projectiles to your meele's (so more dmg), it changes your nade to a phoenix of sorts (probably more dmg), it also provides the same ability regen like apotheosis but for longer probably AND it provides you and all of your allies scortching rounds (all solar weapons now apply scortch with each shot)

Sounds dope, hopefully it will actually be good.