STOP GIVING RAID WEAPONS TO CASUALS!!!

[Badger]

First it was the wishes, and now Bungie is making raid weapons (Forbearance and Succession) acquirable via a playlist activity!!!

Raid weapons should be what they're, RAID. WEAPONS. if you don't raid you shouldn't get them.

Do not make the game more casual than it already is, this is a slippery slope imo, first they make a weapon or 2, next thing you know the entire raid weapon pool is acquirable via a casual playlist activity.

[Kylito]

Origineel geplaatst door Mez Koo:

Origineel geplaatst door Kylito:

... you farmed Kalli for a week straight? Why?

Lots of people did, it was the most efficient way with the least amount of work to get all the deepsight patterns for all the last wish weapons.

Dunno man, seems like it'd be better to just do 1 run a week. But to each their own.

[RyuKazé]

I don't have friends that play Destiny so we can team up nor am I in a clan, so I think it's great that I'll have a chance to access raid weapons.

[Malevelon Creek Veteran]

Origineel geplaatst door RyuKaze:

I don't have friends that play Destiny so we can team up nor am I in a clan, so I think it's great that I'll have a chance to access raid weapons.

Oh but you see, you're gonna have to slave away in LFG hoping you get a team that isn't full of toxic people or elitists. And then farm away. Because this guy is angy more people get access to some weapons

[Snow Miser]

Origineel geplaatst door trukr:

Origineel geplaatst door John Steinbeck:

Can I go the opposite direction of this and say that Anarchy & Tarrabah shouldn't be priced with SoC's and should use planetary resources, or no resources instead? The sparrow also shouldn't be priced, just thrown into the everstore engrams pool.

Why? It's doable, I have Tarrabah, never done a RAID.

Doable, but...
A). overpriced for what both exotics are worth now, and the sparrow shouldn't even cost more than legendary shards.
B). The raids are gone. No point of locking them behind* 20 raids worth of spoils.

[lobstermadness]

Bungie should make a game with nothing but RAIDS and PVP and then this OP will be happy? Maybe?

[GZQRing]

LOL No. In my opinion I bought the game Bungo should give me what I paid including Raid weapons. Bungo didn't say I must get a bunch of friends to get them.

[Cryptix]

Origineel geplaatst door GZQRing:

LOL No. In my opinion I bought the game Bungo should give me what I paid including Raid weapons. Bungo didn't say I must get a bunch of friends to get them.

I think what you want is more-so RAIDs being doable solo. Which I would be all on board for.

[trukr]

Origineel geplaatst door John Steinbeck:

Origineel geplaatst door trukr:

Why? It's doable, I have Tarrabah, never done a RAID.

Doable, but...
A). overpriced for what both exotics are worth now, and the sparrow shouldn't even cost more than legendary shards.
B). The raids are gone. No point of locking them behind* 20 raids worth of spoils.

I spend a few minutes a week doing something easy, I end up with something, you don't, that's on you. If you don't think they're worth it, why worry about them?

[Snow Miser]

Origineel geplaatst door trukr:

I spend a few minutes a week doing something easy, I end up with something, you don't, that's on you. If you don't think they're worth it, why worry about them?

250 spoils isn't "a few minutes" by any means.

I said they aren't worth the price. Because... they aren't. The exotic ciphers (if you aren't getting them from the pass) already pose enough of a grind, so why on top of that are spoils required?

[Cryptix]

Origineel geplaatst door John Steinbeck:

Origineel geplaatst door trukr:

I spend a few minutes a week doing something easy, I end up with something, you don't, that's on you. If you don't think they're worth it, why worry about them?

250 spoils isn't "a few minutes" by any means.

I said they aren't worth the price. Because... they aren't. The exotic ciphers (if you aren't getting them from the pass) already pose enough of a grind, so why on top of that are spoils required?

I don't think exotic ciphers are a grind, but I do agree that 250 spoils is far too much.

I also agree that the exotics requiring spoils should have the spoils requirement removed. Only because it would bring some form of consistency to the exotic archive.

[trukr]

Origineel geplaatst door John Steinbeck:

Origineel geplaatst door trukr:

I spend a few minutes a week doing something easy, I end up with something, you don't, that's on you. If you don't think they're worth it, why worry about them?

250 spoils isn't "a few minutes" by any means.

I said they aren't worth the price. Because... they aren't. The exotic ciphers (if you aren't getting them from the pass) already pose enough of a grind, so why on top of that are spoils required?

I said "a week", I never said I get 240 (not 250) in a few minutes.
The value placed on something is subjective.

[Kylito]

Origineel geplaatst door John Steinbeck:

Can I go the opposite direction of this and say that Anarchy & Tarrabah shouldn't be priced with SoC's and should use planetary resources, or no resources instead? The sparrow also shouldn't be priced, just thrown into the everstore engrams pool.

Best sparrow into the RNG cosmetic pool? Uhh... No thanks...

[Snow Miser]

Origineel geplaatst door Kylito:

Best sparrow into the RNG cosmetic pool? Uhh... No thanks...

They updated it so that all exotic sparrows are on the same level. It no longer holds its unique function, just hasn't been brought out of the kyoisk yet.

Alright though, maybe not into the "endless-blues-verse" loot pool engram.

[Jessie]

Origineel geplaatst door Aujuls:

Oh how sad right? Now more people can enjoy the weapons we have. Oh the humanity. How can we go on with this

Right?

Imagine not needing to go into a raid, use a little parkour, and using a macro on a wish wall to get them! COMPLETE INSANITY. The indignity for them to not suffer!

Seriously though unless OP just wanna gatekeep for the sake of fear of "its not cool anymore" go sherpa people through it

[Kylito]

Origineel geplaatst door John Steinbeck:

Origineel geplaatst door Kylito:

Best sparrow into the RNG cosmetic pool? Uhh... No thanks...

They updated it so that all exotic sparrows are on the same level. It no longer holds its unique function, just hasn't been brought out of the kyoisk yet.

Alright though, maybe not into the "endless-blues-verse" loot pool engram.

It has better energy and you take less damage on it. Still the best sparrow, although Skimmers are better than those now.