Someone PLEASE explain PvP to me

[Digital]

No one can actually give an actual answer outside of "git gud" or "lol don't play it"

I've been playing more Crucible over the last week or so, and so far I'm on a 17 game losing streak between Crucible and Iron Banner matches.

I can't figure out the flow, I don't know the rotation. Hand Cannons are two shotting me, and I get called a scrub if I use an Assault Rifle, someone was made because he was getting killed by shotguns all the time, and I was getting two tapped out of spawn by a scout rifle.

I don't understand PvP and I can't find a balance between the weapons I want to use, and the weapons I "need" to use and the weapons that are actually structural to getting a win.

Literally all I want is the Scarlet Semblance Shader, I've somehow unlocked Crucible Metallic four times since I've started and I'm none the wiser and 90% of the time, my team doesn't chat.

[N33MA]

Hand-cannons cant two shot outside of hawkmoon's exotic trait.

99% of the game is just making sure you aren't caught out of cover since Destiny has so much aim assist that fights generally come down to who ever has better positioning and shoots first.

[hors]

i just tried alot of loadouts and stuck with synthos with 140 hc and shotgun on strand

[Weaselly]

Originally posted by N33MA:

Hand-cannons cant two shot outside of hawkmoon's exotic trait.

This is flat-out false, annoyingly

Combos like Igneous Hammer w/ Golden Tricorn or Combined Action w/ Adagio can, indeed, 2-tap headshot at most Resilience levels.

I have been proven wrong on the internet, nvm

[FatalFRAME]

Not even good players can really do anything if their team is getting stomped on. A healthy team to keep the tide balanced is to have a healthy amount of the team controlling mid to team shot and not just one peculiar corner of the map.

For example, in iron banner, i was the only one on the team trying to control mid map while my whole team was just trying to team shot on 1 corner of the map because it was the most active for them, this allowed a couple ape shotgun rushers to zig zag around cover and run straight through mid map and easily take out the whole team from behind/side, its almost like getting boxed in to get shot from every angle. If i just had 1 guardian with me JUST 1, we could've prevented that by easily team shotting anyone that tried to rush.

Most of the time all u need is one mid range/long range weapon paired with short range weapon.

[N33MA]

Originally posted by Weaselly:

Originally posted by N33MA:

Hand-cannons cant two shot outside of hawkmoon's exotic trait.

This is flat-out false, annoyingly

Combos like Igneous Hammer w/ Golden Tricorn or Combined Action w/ Adagio can, indeed, 2-tap headshot at most Resilience levels.

No they can't. Golden tricorn and adagio cant two tap anymore after the sandbox rework. Both of those have less damge buff than kill clip and even it can't 2 tap all resil levels.

[Weaselly]

Originally posted by N33MA:

Originally posted by Weaselly:

This is flat-out false, annoyingly

Combos like Igneous Hammer w/ Golden Tricorn or Combined Action w/ Adagio can, indeed, 2-tap headshot at most Resilience levels.

No they can't. Golden tricorn and adagio cant two tap anymore after the sandbox rework. Both of those have less damge buff than kill clip and even it can't 2 tap all resil levels.

Oh ♥♥♥♥, my b
Missed that part of the patchnotes, I guess lmao

[TACTICAL D-0GGY]

PvP is and always has been a mario party level fps. It's a minigame in a PvE game with bad networking. I say this as someone with innumerable hours in it.

[Digital]

I literally keep unlocking Crucible Metallic as well, not only am I struggling to find a balance in PvP, the last 5 shaders I've unlocked have been Crucible Metallic.

Does Scarlet Semblance still drop from PvP?

[Perfos]

I think without radar pvp would be more fun.
But a lot of items and perks are build around radar, so i guess this would never be an option.

[Lost]

Location, Location, Location, Location..

Jokes aside as someone who has casually run Iron-Banner since the launch. PvP changes consistently, "Meta builds" are a thing but also seem to change on a weekly basis.

The best tip to be "gud" at destiny PVP is just situational awareness, if an enemy runs around a corner. Throw a grenade but don't chase, if an enemy is sniping or holding a doorway, flank.

Broken shields followed by a melee in typical bungo fashion is a one tap, so using classic halo tap 'em and smack 'em combo is your bread and butter.

Always remember the golden rule, if your team is in front of you the enemy is behind you.