For Midnight Coup which of these rolls are better?

[Iskandar]

Explosive payload and rampage
or
explosive payload and frenzy

[pirate135246]

frenzy

[BushudoDragon]

while rampage has a higher max damage when at three stacks, frenzy requires no kills and max's out your handling/reload stats. generally i'd recommend frenzy over rampage just for its ease of use.

[Lil C]-[ew C]-[ew is ☂д☂]

Found one with 'Desperate Measures' perk but all Midnight Coups found with 'Explosive Payload' can't pass 54-60 of range so they were

[Badger]

Rampage is a relic of the past, and it should stay there, it's only there to delude the loot pool, Frenzy while offers less damage, it requires you to only be on combat for 7 seconds, no kill needed, and it maxes out handling and reload for the weapon, Frenzy is a no brainer here.

[Lil C]-[ew C]-[ew is ☂д☂]

Found the fourth with this perk but is shiny this time. Fun fact, I haven't touched Onslaught activity the entire month after all expansions and seasonal activities got free.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3259544696
:D

[WonReasley8192]

explosive payload + frenzy is the one you want to keep. Sadly, explosive payload and rampage do not stack (no idea why) and it causes your weapon to do less damage than just using rampage by itself. For example, normally, rampage at one stack gives you 10% more damage, and at 3 stacks it gives 33% more damage. Well, when you have both explosive payload AND rampage, one stack is only 4%, and three stacks is 31%

[Kormit the Frag]

Originally posted by Lil C-ew C-ew is ☂д☂:

Found one with 'Desperate Measures' perk but all Midnight Coups found with 'Explosive Payload' can't pass 54-60 of range so they were

you know the difference between 60 and 100 range is like, 3m tops right?

[Ryanqube]

Smallbore/hammerforge + alloy mag + explosive payload + frenzy is the way to go. 1,5 seconds reload time without reload mod, 100 handling, 100 reload, and 25% damage buff for free.

Explosive payload + one for all is also really good but I just can't deal with the long ahh reload time and how I need to be aware to reprocc OFA since it's not refreshable when it's active.

Rampage is garbage.

[lockwoodx]

Originally posted by WonReasley8192:

explosive payload + frenzy is the one you want to keep. Sadly, explosive payload and rampage do not stack (no idea why) and it causes your weapon to do less damage than just using rampage by itself. For example, normally, rampage at one stack gives you 10% more damage, and at 3 stacks it gives 33% more damage. Well, when you have both explosive payload AND rampage, one stack is only 4%, and three stacks is 31%

Explosive payload takes a portion of your base damage and reserves it for the blast so you're not actually generating higher damage, you're reserving a portion of it for a BURST attack to hopefully finish a stubborn enemy.

[Ryanqube]

Originally posted by LockwoodX:

Explosive payload takes a portion of your base damage and reserves it for the blast so you're not actually generating higher damage, you're reserving a portion of it for a BURST attack to hopefully finish a stubborn enemy.

yes you do tf? 50% of your bullet damage goes into the explosion and the explosion have 30% increased damage in PvE, resulting in 15% increased damage.

[Megumin's Husband]

i wish it could roll explosive/firefly