best pve weapons in this season 11 ?

[Lucho]

i get back into the game and i want to know which one are the best weapons on some categories in this season for pve content

[Anti Homeless Rock]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mister__Wiggles:

Mans stuck 2 meta's ago, kinda sad..

Is what it is. They aren't in my raids, so they can use w/e I guess

[Mister Wiggles]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von To the Bell Dimension:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mister__Wiggles:

Mans stuck 2 meta's ago, kinda sad..

Is what it is. They aren't in my raids, so they can use w/e I guess

Yeah, people like him are a meme in the community as well so at least we all get a kick out of it.

[Super-XIX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von To the Bell Dimension:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pullaaaaaa:

If you use xenophage in any of my raid squads you getting kicked, izawendigo for long range is king

I understand wanting to make raids and whatnot harder, but long range, and wendigo don't really go together

I mean, Wendigo is still pretty good if you can get the arc down. But that's kind of a waste when you can just Actium War Rig + Xenophage and do almost the same damage without any of that nonsense.

[Emil]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mister__Wiggles:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von To the Bell Dimension:

Is what it is. They aren't in my raids, so they can use w/e I guess

Yeah, people like him are a meme in the community as well so at least we all get a kick out of it.

Sure, just look at the numbers. If you can't shoot wendigo properly it's not my fault, Izzywendigo is better DPS than xeno on hunter and warlock, on titan it's a bit closer since rigs are a thing. I think I have a bit more experience in raids than you so take that as an advice in your future raids.

[Anti Homeless Rock]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pullaaaaaa:

Sure, just look at the numbers. If you can't shoot wendigo properly it's not my fault, Izzywendigo is better DPS than xeno on hunter and warlock, on titan it's a bit closer since rigs are a thing. I think I have a bit more experience in raids than you so take that as an advice in your future raids.

Hunter has a dodge reload, half of this has no standing

[Tom]

Has everyone forgotten how balls to the wall nutty Trinity ghoul is with its catalyst? For pve i run it with Revoker or god roll Hawthorn, and my heavy is usually a spike nade full court clown cartridge Interference with either boss or major spec. I've used this loadout since the start of the season and i think i'll keep using it for a long time after.

[Anti Homeless Rock]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tom:

Has everyone forgotten how balls to the wall nutty Trinity ghoul is with its catalyst? For pve i run it with Revoker or god roll Hawthorn, and my heavy is usually a spike nade full court clown cartridge Interference with either boss or major spec. I've used this loadout since the start of the season and i think i'll keep using it for a long time after.

tbh, Ghoul's catalyst is how all catas should be imo. Not just a simple +stat, but a huge boost to what the weapon does

[Tom]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von To the Bell Dimension:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tom:

Has everyone forgotten how balls to the wall nutty Trinity ghoul is with its catalyst? For pve i run it with Revoker or god roll Hawthorn, and my heavy is usually a spike nade full court clown cartridge Interference with either boss or major spec. I've used this loadout since the start of the season and i think i'll keep using it for a long time after.

tbh, Ghoul's catalyst is how all catas should be imo. Not just a simple +stat, but a huge boost to what the weapon does

Agreed. Imagine if the Graviton lance catalyst made the void orbs aggressively seek targets, instead of just boosting the range on a gun that has infinite range. Or Imagine if Mida's catalyst was something actually useful!

[Emil]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von To the Bell Dimension:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pullaaaaaa:

Sure, just look at the numbers. If you can't shoot wendigo properly it's not my fault, Izzywendigo is better DPS than xeno on hunter and warlock, on titan it's a bit closer since rigs are a thing. I think I have a bit more experience in raids than you so take that as an advice in your future raids.

Hunter has a dodge reload, half of this has no standing

Yes but you still lose DPS on hunter, Izzy wendigo is harder to pull of but it does more DPS. It's a fact. Xeno is used because of its ease of use

[Bluemenkranz]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ∞:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pullaaaaaa:

Yes but you still lose DPS on hunter, Izzy wendigo is harder to pull of but it does more DPS. It's a fact. Xeno is used because of its ease of use

Yeah! That's why you have only 5 clears of 17 attempt in GoS and 336 deaths lmao https://raid.report/pc/4611686018489012743

Lmfao

[Scaredy Cat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Leliel:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ∞:

Yeah! That's why you have only 5 clears of 17 attempt in GoS and 336 deaths lmao https://raid.report/pc/4611686018489012743

Lmfao

To be fair, he is right in saying that Izanagi and Wendigo is better damage if it's executed perfectly. That being said, doing that consistendly requires a lot of practice with reloadcancels and quickdrawswapglitches. Only if 4-5 out of 6 players execute it perfectly is it possible to 1phase sanctified. Xenophage and 1K do slightly less damage overall, but they allow for a bit more weapon diversity and they are a lot easier to use. Moreover, they are still a guarenteed 2phase on both sanctified and consecrated. Its up to you what strategy you want to use. Sacrificing a possible (but difficult) 1 phase for ease of use, or vice versa is a call you'll have to make with your team.

[Scaredy Cat]

Adding to my previous post. Giving advice about dps might not be the best idea if you have only completed 5 of your 17 attempts.

[Bluemenkranz]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scaredy Cat:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Leliel:

Lmfao

To be fair, he is right in saying that Izanagi and Wendigo is better damage if it's executed perfectly. That being said, doing that consistendly requires a lot of practice with reloadcancels and quickdrawswapglitches. Only if 4-5 out of 6 players execute it perfectly is it possible to 1phase sanctified. Xenophage and 1K do slightly less damage overall, but they allow for a bit more weapon diversity and they are a lot easier to use. Moreover, they are still a guarenteed 2phase on both sanctified and consecrated. Its up to you what strategy you want to use. Sacrificing a possible (but difficult) 1 phase for ease of use, or vice versa is a call you'll have to make with your team.

The issue there is consistency and the fact wendigo is being sunset

[Scaredy Cat]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ∞:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scaredy Cat:

To be fair, he is right in saying that Izanagi and Wendigo is better damage if it's executed perfectly. That being said, doing that consistendly requires a lot of practice with reloadcancels and quickdrawswapglitches. Only if 4-5 out of 6 players execute it perfectly is it possible to 1phase sanctified. Xenophage and 1K do slightly less damage overall, but they allow for a bit more weapon diversity and they are a lot easier to use. Moreover, they are still a guarenteed 2phase on both sanctified and consecrated. Its up to you what strategy you want to use. Sacrificing a possible (but difficult) 1 phase for ease of use, or vice versa is a call you'll have to make with your team.

Thread is about "In this season 11" Guy asking, what's most and best to use, so! You saying he is right, giving arguments like: " if you glitch, cancel animation of reloading and etc." I don't think, that OP is asking "dance polka" and do some weird manipulations for high DPS! Just deal with it, that meme guy stuck 2 seasons ago, and came here with some crap thing! Fact is, that Xenophage massively dominating in mostly every raid! Nothing saying about swords, especially Guillotine!
UPD. Forgot how easy sometimes, miss shot(crit.) with Izanagi, that happens quite often with ppl!

I said he is technically correct. I never said i would recommend running it however. The damage output is slightly higher which allows for 1 phases where xeno can't. BUT, it is incredibly difficult to pull of consistendly, and generally only done by very experienced/speedrunners. For 99% of the community i'd personally recommend xeno and 1K.

This however doesnt change that Iza/Wendi deals higher damage than xeno/1k when executed perfectly.
Is the original guy an !diot for kicking people that don't use iza/wendi? Yes. Was he a d!ck about it? Yes. Is Iza/Wendi viable? Yes, for a certain type of player.

And i'll once again reiterate myself. I personally recommend xeno/1k for most raid bosses because of their ease of use.
Some exceptions:
For bosses that can be sworded like Kalli and Shuro the Falling guillotine is best.
For bosses just outside of melee range you can use either Acrius with reloadcancel or 4th horseman/GL.
For Valus Ca'aur you use Wardcliff.

[Bluemenkranz]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Scaredy Cat:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ∞:

Thread is about "In this season 11" Guy asking, what's most and best to use, so! You saying he is right, giving arguments like: " if you glitch, cancel animation of reloading and etc." I don't think, that OP is asking "dance polka" and do some weird manipulations for high DPS! Just deal with it, that meme guy stuck 2 seasons ago, and came here with some crap thing! Fact is, that Xenophage massively dominating in mostly every raid! Nothing saying about swords, especially Guillotine!
UPD. Forgot how easy sometimes, miss shot(crit.) with Izanagi, that happens quite often with ppl!

I said he is technically correct. I never said i would recommend running it however. The damage output is slightly higher which allows for 1 phases where xeno can't. BUT, it is incredibly difficult to pull of consistendly, and generally only done by very experienced/speedrunners. For 99% of the community i'd personally recommend xeno and 1K.

This however doesnt change that Iza/Wendi deals higher damage than xeno/1k when executed perfectly.
Is the original guy an !diot for kicking people that don't use iza/wendi? Yes. Was he a d!ck about it? Yes. Is Iza/Wendi viable? Yes, for a certain type of player.

And i'll once again reiterate myself. I personally recommend xeno/1k for most raid bosses because of their ease of use.
Some exceptions:
For bosses that can be sworded like Kalli and Shuro the Falling guillotine is best.
For bosses just outside of melee range you can use either Acrius with reloadcancel or 4th horseman/GL.
For Valus Ca'aur you use Wardcliff.

1K definitely works for most things, only thing is ammo may be a bit scarce/low reserves.
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Thats my raid team killing an Ahamkara with the Ahamkara