+5 Competitive points / win

[flon]

Is there any reason why I'm getting +5 points per win?

I've been around gold 1 since I started playing again since vanilla d2 and made it into my first promotion series which is bad enough a feature imo. I lost it and now back into regular comp and I'm getting +5 /win and -100+ /loss?

I'm guessing I won't get back to regular point gains until I drop into the lowest division, it would not surprise me at all if this is the case...

[ScurvyDog]

Here is good topic about win/loss points disbalance.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrucibleGuidebook/comments/12d19zi/how_to_get_rank_up_more_than_plat/

In short, bungie have internal MMR.
If your internal MMR > your rank, you'll receive more points for win and lose less
if your internal MMR < your rank, you'll receive very little amount of points for win and lose a lot more
How to increase your internal MMR? Nobody knows, just play PvP and geet goot.

[flon]

Originally posted by Cocktame:

Here is good topic about win/loss points disbalance.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrucibleGuidebook/comments/12d19zi/how_to_get_rank_up_more_than_plat/

In short, bungie have internal MMR.
If your internal MMR > your rank, you'll receive more points for win and lose less
if your internal MMR < your rank, you'll receive very little amount of points for win and lose a lot more
How to increase your internal MMR? Nobody knows, just play PvP and geet goot.

lit winning against teams in adept ffs still +5 its so dumb

[ScurvyDog]

Yep, it is. I play compet only because I prefer 3v3 more than 6v6.
One day I had 70% winrate and got +50 points in total.

[flon]

Originally posted by Cocktame:

Yep, it is. I play compet only because I prefer 3v3 more than 6v6.
One day I had 70% winrate and got +50 points in total.

4v4 quickplay >>>>>>>> 6v6
not gonna be able to get out of gold for the title because i'm playing adepts every game lmfao

[ScurvyDog]

I'm pretty sure, Bungie skill calculation algorithm is very slow. It feels like you need play PVP a lot and someday your MMR will reach your rank. And you'll start receive more points, until you face another skill wall.

[flon]

Originally posted by Cocktame:

I'm pretty sure, Bungie skill calculation algorithm is very slow. It feels like you need play PVP a lot and someday your MMR will reach your rank. And you'll start receive more points, until you face another skill wall.

I've read now it's literally just standard sbmm, I could be in whatever the lowest rank is and still face adepts if it's what the game wants lol

[Zach]

I had some games like this where I'd get +50 in some adept games where we'd crush the other team, but my two friends would get something like +100 or something higher. Other times, I'll get +200 and they would get +50, and if we lose, i could lose like -40, but a teammate would lose -120+. The whole system is very bad, tbh.

Originally posted by flon:

Originally posted by Cocktame:

I'm pretty sure, Bungie skill calculation algorithm is very slow. It feels like you need play PVP a lot and someday your MMR will reach your rank. And you'll start receive more points, until you face another skill wall.

I've read now it's literally just standard sbmm, I could be in whatever the lowest rank is and still face adepts if it's what the game wants lol

I mean, just because they're an Adept, doesn't mean they're good. I have faced many Ascendants and Adepts that were below average. Like I said, the system they use is terrible.


Also, this post is a good indication of how it works:
https://old.reddit.com/r/CrucibleGuidebook/comments/12ga151/why_does_this_happen/jflpdbv/

[flon]

Originally posted by guardian2439?:

I had some games like this where I'd get +50 in some adept games where we'd crush the other team, but my two friends would get something like +100 or something higher. Other times, I'll get +200 and they would get +50, and if we lose, i could lose like -40, but a teammate would lose -120+. The whole system is very bad, tbh.

Originally posted by flon:

I've read now it's literally just standard sbmm, I could be in whatever the lowest rank is and still face adepts if it's what the game wants lol

I mean, just because they're an Adept, doesn't mean they're good. I have faced many Ascendants and Adepts that were below average. Like I said, the system they use is terrible.


Also, this post is a good indication of how it works:
https://old.reddit.com/r/CrucibleGuidebook/comments/12ga151/why_does_this_happen/jflpdbv/

I'm just using their rank as a reference to question why tf it's happening. But I understand now, thanks.

[GUNxOFxPATR1OTS]

lol why even bother with this broken ass PVP...I hope they remove this cancer and make a separate game, where neckbeards can jerk themself off allday. BUNGIE forcing this ♥♥♥♥ down our throat.

[GUNxOFxPATR1OTS]

Originally posted by flon:

Originally posted by Cocktame:

Yep, it is. I play compet only because I prefer 3v3 more than 6v6.
One day I had 70% winrate and got +50 points in total.

4v4 quickplay >>>>>>>> 6v6
not gonna be able to get out of gold for the title because i'm playing adepts every game lmfao

coz playbase there is thin, and you`ll get same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all day long

[DakotaThrice]

https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/lightfall-crucible-update

Others have already provided answers but there's the explanation directly from Bungie alongside some details of how the system is changing over coming seasons.