is the pinnacle cap going to 1820 next season or staying 1810

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[MULTIPASS]

It's staying at 1810.

[vamp]

Originally posted by MULTIPASS:

It's staying at 1810.

appr it

[literally an existential crisis]

wait really?

[Berry]

Originally posted by literally an existential crisis:

wait really?

Yes, they've decided to not raise the pinnacle cap this time around. Crazy, I know. Good change, but, they should remove it all together. It only serves to be annoying.

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Berry:

Originally posted by literally an existential crisis:

wait really?

Yes, they've decided to not raise the pinnacle cap this time around. Crazy, I know. Good change, but, they should remove it all together. It only serves to be annoying.

Remove power level altogether? I think removing leveling in an MMO would be very poorly received.

[Berry]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Berry:

Yes, they've decided to not raise the pinnacle cap this time around. Crazy, I know. Good change, but, they should remove it all together. It only serves to be annoying.

Remove power level altogether? I think removing leveling in an MMO would be very poorly received.

Have leveling only be with the artifact, there is nothing interesting about grinding the same monotonous process since base Destiny 1. There is no challenge/function at all in farming blues up to soft cap then optimizing powerful and pinnacle drops. They lock power level anyways for things like GMs, what's the point? It's useless.

[Big Goss]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Berry:

Yes, they've decided to not raise the pinnacle cap this time around. Crazy, I know. Good change, but, they should remove it all together. It only serves to be annoying.

Remove power level altogether? I think removing leveling in an MMO would be very poorly received.

IIRC theyre planning on overhauling the system and replacing gear level, probably with a more traditional xp focused system

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Berry:

Originally posted by Kylito:

Remove power level altogether? I think removing leveling in an MMO would be very poorly received.

Have leveling only be with the artifact, there is nothing interesting about grinding the same monotonous process since base Destiny 1. There is no challenge/function at all in farming blues up to soft cap then optimizing powerful and pinnacle drops. They lock power level anyways for things like GMs, what's the point? It's useless.

And artifact is exciting? IMO go the other way, make artifact cap out at 10 or 15 levels. Artifact is entirely mindless grinding of XP, powerfuls/pinnacles requires optimization and strategy to decrease the chance of RNG hurting you. It's relatively consistent to be able to reach pinnacle in a week, but artifact leveling takes much longer.

[Berry]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Berry:

Have leveling only be with the artifact, there is nothing interesting about grinding the same monotonous process since base Destiny 1. There is no challenge/function at all in farming blues up to soft cap then optimizing powerful and pinnacle drops. They lock power level anyways for things like GMs, what's the point? It's useless.

And artifact is exciting? IMO go the other way, make artifact cap out at 10 or 15 levels. Artifact is entirely mindless grinding of XP, powerfuls/pinnacles requires optimization and strategy to decrease the chance of RNG hurting you. It's relatively consistent to be able to reach pinnacle in a week, but artifact leveling takes much longer.

They are both not fun but I would rather artifact than have to worry about gear. Having to infuse stuff every season for each individual piece is mind numbing.

[Berry]

Originally posted by Big Goss:

Originally posted by Kylito:

Remove power level altogether? I think removing leveling in an MMO would be very poorly received.

IIRC theyre planning on overhauling the system and replacing gear level, probably with a more traditional xp focused system

That would be welcomed.

[Sofia]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Berry:

Have leveling only be with the artifact, there is nothing interesting about grinding the same monotonous process since base Destiny 1. There is no challenge/function at all in farming blues up to soft cap then optimizing powerful and pinnacle drops. They lock power level anyways for things like GMs, what's the point? It's useless.

And artifact is exciting? IMO go the other way, make artifact cap out at 10 or 15 levels. Artifact is entirely mindless grinding of XP, powerfuls/pinnacles requires optimization and strategy to decrease the chance of RNG hurting you. It's relatively consistent to be able to reach pinnacle in a week, but artifact leveling takes much longer.

L take.

Pinnacle leveling is RNG and requires players to do activities they might not want to - have to do PvP, dungeons, raids, nightfalls, seasonal activities, trials, dares, every single week.

The artifact is fair, though. You just do stuff. Any stuff. As long as you're playing, you're getting XP, you're leveling.

We'd have a LOT more players having fun and leveling with content they like, and a LOT less players whining about how they hate certain content, if the game didn't force us to do tons of stuff we dislike every week for our pinnacle.

If I want to level my artifact to 30 doing nothing but vanguard strikes, because I enjoy it, then let me.

[TheVoidSpirit]

Originally posted by Sofia/Dri:

Originally posted by Kylito:

And artifact is exciting? IMO go the other way, make artifact cap out at 10 or 15 levels. Artifact is entirely mindless grinding of XP, powerfuls/pinnacles requires optimization and strategy to decrease the chance of RNG hurting you. It's relatively consistent to be able to reach pinnacle in a week, but artifact leveling takes much longer.

L take.

Pinnacle leveling is RNG and requires players to do activities they might not want to - have to do PvP, dungeons, raids, nightfalls, seasonal activities, trials, dares, every single week.

The artifact is fair, though. You just do stuff. Any stuff. As long as you're playing, you're getting XP, you're leveling.

We'd have a LOT more players having fun and leveling with content they like, and a LOT less players whining about how they hate certain content, if the game didn't force us to do tons of stuff we dislike every week for our pinnacle.

If I want to level my artifact to 30 doing nothing but vanguard strikes, because I enjoy it, then let me.

Highest possible Light level should be locked behind Raids, Dungeons, GMs and so on. In every MMO, you have to clear the hardest content, to get the highest gear, why not in Destiny?

[Sofia]

Originally posted by TheVoidSpirit:

Originally posted by Sofia/Dri:

L take.

Pinnacle leveling is RNG and requires players to do activities they might not want to - have to do PvP, dungeons, raids, nightfalls, seasonal activities, trials, dares, every single week.

The artifact is fair, though. You just do stuff. Any stuff. As long as you're playing, you're getting XP, you're leveling.

We'd have a LOT more players having fun and leveling with content they like, and a LOT less players whining about how they hate certain content, if the game didn't force us to do tons of stuff we dislike every week for our pinnacle.

If I want to level my artifact to 30 doing nothing but vanguard strikes, because I enjoy it, then let me.

Highest possible Light level should be locked behind Raids, Dungeons, GMs and so on. In every MMO, you have to clear the hardest content, to get the highest gear, why not in Destiny?

This is incorrect and shows you haven't been playing many MMOs lately.

For instance, FF14 has a new patch coming out tomorrow. The new gears crafters will be able to make, is as powerful as the gear that comes from the new 8man raids coming out. There's even stronger gear you can buy with a currency, currency you can acquire from ANY content. Endgame lets you earn it faster, but you could still just do nothing but PvP all day if that's what you like and earn the strongest gear that way.

[TheVoidSpirit]

Originally posted by Sofia/Dri:

Originally posted by TheVoidSpirit:

Highest possible Light level should be locked behind Raids, Dungeons, GMs and so on. In every MMO, you have to clear the hardest content, to get the highest gear, why not in Destiny?

This is incorrect and shows you haven't been playing many MMOs lately.

For instance, FF14 has a new patch coming out tomorrow. The new gears crafters will be able to make, is as powerful as the gear that comes from the new 8man raids coming out. There's even stronger gear you can buy with a currency, currency you can acquire from ANY content. Endgame lets you earn it faster, but you could still just do nothing but PvP all day if that's what you like and earn the strongest gear that way.

Crafted Gear is only as good as Normal Raid gear. Savage Gear is better, and you need a mix of Savage and Augmented Tomestone Gear to have the optimal set for your Job.
Also, to be able to upgrade the regular Tome Gear, you need to either: clear Savage floors for the upgrade currency, or wait for the next patch and clear the Alliance Raids to earn tokens to get the currency.
So no, you can't just "grind PvP all day for the strongest gear" in FFXIV.

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Sofia/Dri:

Originally posted by TheVoidSpirit:

Highest possible Light level should be locked behind Raids, Dungeons, GMs and so on. In every MMO, you have to clear the hardest content, to get the highest gear, why not in Destiny?

This is incorrect and shows you haven't been playing many MMOs lately.

For instance, FF14 has a new patch coming out tomorrow. The new gears crafters will be able to make, is as powerful as the gear that comes from the new 8man raids coming out. There's even stronger gear you can buy with a currency, currency you can acquire from ANY content. Endgame lets you earn it faster, but you could still just do nothing but PvP all day if that's what you like and earn the strongest gear that way.

That's not great. IMO people literally should not be able to hit pinnacle unless they do raids/dungeons. The fact that people can get to pinnacle through just basic ritual activities does devalue the experience, but changing it to entirely XP would just ruin it.