do they plan to make vaulted raids come back ever?

[Praise the Sun]

i only like this game because of the raids, and knowing a lot of them are just gone really pisses me off. do they have any intentions of bringing them back? i know they removed them because of "file sizes" but thats kinda BS. if they actually cared then they could have made it so you can opt in to download the raids/vaulted content not just remove it potentially forever.

[Wolfguarde]

[=RaggA=]

They have alluded to potentially bringing older content back post-Final Shape but have given no details as to what that may look like. Personally I could see them bringing back vaulted raids on some sort of rotator like they have started doing with exotic quests.

[trukr]

It was never about file sizes.

[Praise the Sun]

Originally posted by =RaggA=:

They have alluded to potentially bringing older content back post-Final Shape but have given no details as to what that may look like. Personally I could see them bringing back vaulted raids on some sort of rotator like they have started doing with exotic quests.

that would be nice

[trukr]

Originally posted by Vaatihastur:

Originally posted by trukr:

It was never about file sizes.

https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49189

A swing and a miss.

Not about to big for muh consoles. Beyond Light would have actually been Destiny 3 if they stayed with Activision, they made large changes to the engine that the old content would not run properly on. "Destiny 2 is too large to efficiently update and maintain." is not about our storage, it was about not being able to get everything running right for release of Beyond Light, they were three months late releasing as it was. It helps to have been around and reading what they said as things happened and not some PR thing tossed online.

[Burba]

Originally posted by Vaatihastur:

Originally posted by trukr:

It was never about file sizes.

https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49189

I would have called that a pack of lies. However who would lie about screwing up that badly?

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Praise the Sun:

i only like this game because of the raids, and knowing a lot of them are just gone really pisses me off. do they have any intentions of bringing them back? i know they removed them because of "file sizes" but thats kinda BS. if they actually cared then they could have made it so you can opt in to download the raids/vaulted content not just remove it potentially forever.

*sigh* It wasn't just because of file size, it was also because of backend issues. The game was too large to maintain, something like EoW or SoS is not worth maintaining when very, very few players ever touched them.

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Burba:

Originally posted by Vaatihastur:

https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49189

I would have called that a pack of lies. However who would lie about screwing up that badly?

The linked Bungie news tab was released months before the DCV came into effect. They had nothing to lie about, this was exactly what happened. File sizes AND backend have both improved, with the current total content amount being larger than it was in Y3.

[Kylito]

Originally posted by =RaggA=:

They have alluded to potentially bringing older content back post-Final Shape but have given no details as to what that may look like. Personally I could see them bringing back vaulted raids on some sort of rotator like they have started doing with exotic quests.

Raids on rotator would be lame, it's much more likely we will start getting back old D2 raids after all the D1 ones get remade.

[trukr]

Originally posted by Vaatihastur:

Originally posted by trukr:

A swing and a miss.

Not about to big for muh consoles. Beyond Light would have actually been Destiny 3 if they stayed with Activision, they made large changes to the engine that the old content would not run properly on. "Destiny 2 is too large to efficiently update and maintain." is not about our storage, it was about not being able to get everything running right for release of Beyond Light, they were three months late releasing as it was. It helps to have been around and reading what they said as things happened and not some PR thing tossed online.

I, am not salty about the vaulting. I understood at the time what the choices were and preferred the choice they made over the alternative.

[Burba]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Burba:

I would have called that a pack of lies. However who would lie about screwing up that badly?

The linked Bungie news tab was released months before the DCV came into effect. They had nothing to lie about, this was exactly what happened. File sizes AND backend have both improved, with the current total content amount being larger than it was in Y3.

I know they were telling the truth (I was playing D2 at the time). Like I said who would lie about that? Nothing to gain. They just admitted that they had bit off more than they could chew. That was very honest of them but it did not instill confidence.

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Burba:

Originally posted by Kylito:

The linked Bungie news tab was released months before the DCV came into effect. They had nothing to lie about, this was exactly what happened. File sizes AND backend have both improved, with the current total content amount being larger than it was in Y3.

I know they were telling the truth (I was playing D2 at the time). Like I said who would lie about that? Nothing to gain. They just admitted that they had bit off more than they could chew. That was very honest of them but it did not instill confidence.

I mean, if your game was built upon the idea that it would be dumped after 3 years, whether or not you admit that the fact is still there. Admitting it instills confidence as honesty is a lot more than other game companies can offer.

[Emurinus]

Considering they're going around and redoing all of the old D1 raids, I imagine they'll likely go back and bring the old D2 raids back eventually. Likely after they get reworked so they aren't immediately powercrept like Last Wish and Garden.

[Ballin' But at what cost]

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[=RaggA=]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by =RaggA=:

They have alluded to potentially bringing older content back post-Final Shape but have given no details as to what that may look like. Personally I could see them bringing back vaulted raids on some sort of rotator like they have started doing with exotic quests.

Raids on rotator would be lame, it's much more likely we will start getting back old D2 raids after all the D1 ones get remade.

Don't get me wrong, I would like for them to just put every raid back in the game. My thinking of a rotator was more from my doubts that Bungie would actually have 15 active raids for us to choose from at the same time.