What is your take on the current state of Crucible and Gambit?

[FluffyGunz]

No hate, no nothin. Just us community members just conversating!

Plus I love reading yalls opinions, Gives me somethin to do

[N33MA]

Gambit is Gambit. It's fun with a stack, but pretty frustrating solo since the most efficient method of playing has basically been "solved" for years now but blueberries don't really care about that.

Crucible is still the same old Crucible. There's a pretty good variety of gun types that are relatively usable in the current sandbox, but the recent buffs to Gravaton Lance and the ineffective nerf to aggressive SMGs have made those guns overly effective. Same goes with No Time to Explain but it's been like that for years now. Ability wise the game is as fun as it ever was with nothing in particular being TOO crazy nowadays but all still being very frustrating to be on the receiving end of.

Mode wise trials is the most accessible and relaxed as it's ever been with round going must faster thanks to the switch to dominion, removal of card based matchmaking, the introduction of 2 mercies, and the ability to get adept guns without even needing to go flawless (just need to win at 7). It seems to be a pretty good state with the exception of the cheese that can result from the dominion game mode (but that is very map dependent).

Comp is better than it was prior to the rework, but while the comp gun in both cases have been really good, only having 1 chance per character per week really takes the wind out of any person's motivation to play. Combine that with very limited ways to show off your rank outside of ascendant ranked players (the transmat shows copper rank to everyone else), and there's little motivation to play outside of maybe getting the glorious seal.

Iron Banner and Control are hurt pretty badly by the heavy lobby balancing and SBMM. There's not really any consensus on this as those changes help less experienced players find better matches but dedicated pvp players are left with poor connections and matches that feel like they're placed in a tourney. Luckily the addition on the relentless playlist and its connection-based match making has helped with this and given everyone a space where they can be comfortable.

Rumble being a constantly available playlist is good.

[HappyDaughterlessFather]

im new, its super fun

[rob_every05]

I have not touched any of them this season other than with clan mates after doing something else, and even then usually last about 1 match before quitting.

Both are utterly loathsome

[NobleFeret]

Both garbage IMHO.

[YaTEdiGo]

I don´t care if sometimes people delete you, or sometimes you own them, is hard, learning curve is difficult even for experienced players on PVE first, is unbalanced many times, is frustrating, but is really really good fun, and one of the few active shooter arenas in old style, like Halo Infinite, Splitgate or the underated and undermarketed Quake Champions, great PVPs.

I even play Trials of Osiris whatever I win or not, (and I won sometimes) I enjoy Crucible a lot, same for Gambit, really have tons of fun with friends, if you lose, you learn, unless you find cheaters, wich anyway there all over in every single game.

BUT, Bungie servers are really really really ruining many times the experience, and Gambit deserves more love, has only 3 maps since forever... really...

[CTRL+ALT+DEFEAT]

Both feel pretty stale if you've been playing the game for a while. Gambit is basically a waste of a playlist activity at this point and has virtually no incentive to play it much.

Crucible fares a little better, but it has more modes and maps to give it some variety. But, again, if you've played for a while, its all pretty meh at this point for a lot of us.

[orch82]

With no dedicated servers and those going to a game that is only pvp while D2 players have been asking for it for years, not good.

[Emurinus]

Gambit just needs more maps. The actual gameloop is tolerable.

[N33MA]

Originally posted by Vaatihastur:

Originally posted by N33MA:

Mode wise trials is the most accessible and relaxed as it's ever been with round going must faster thanks to the switch to dominion, removal of card based matchmaking, the introduction of 2 mercies, and the ability to get adept guns without even needing to go flawless (just need to win at 7). It seems to be a pretty good state with the exception of the cheese that can result from the dominion game mode (but that is very map dependent).

Dont you need to go flawless at least once?

You do, but you don't need to maintain flawless like you use to. It's also a lot easier to go flawless than it used to with 2 mercies.

[TatsuWamma]

Originally posted by Vaatihastur:

Btw its ♥♥♥♥, just got loaded in to a 6 wins trials match with only one other player.

got em

[EmeraldFoxDeity]

Originally posted by FluffyGunz:

No hate, no nothin. Just us community members just conversating! :sunglassesDoge:

Plus I love reading yalls opinions, Gives me somethin to do

I want more Gambit maps. And I'd like the Envoys to be a bit more consistent in their damage instead of seemingly a slot machine of either being fodder or deleting an entire health bar even at max resil for seemingly no rhyme or reason. Not that it happens super often, but it happens enough to make me wonder if something about their slow projectiles are bugged. Perhaps occasionallly hitting more times than once per projectile? Plus the damage all the enemies take from Primaries is just as criminal in Gambit as it is in light level locked content. But that's more of an issue with the bulk of the game and the concept of a primary weapon.

As for Crucible, I'm not sure. It just feels like for whatever reason, Bungie lets it hold their creativity back with builds and weapons. This isn't the fault of the PvP for existing mind you. I think it's simply an unwillingness to let us go ham playing with our toys in PvE while restricting PvP loadouts. Hence the restrictions are largely shared. A big change I would like to see with the game would be for exotic armor pieces to have gear cost scores akin to Mod costs. That way a bunch of outright ignored bad exotics can be given low cost scores to be paired with better exotics. But enough about that, the Crucible itself. I'm genuinely not sure what could be done to make it more attractive to a casual player like myself. I have particularly bad aim when targeting enemy guardians, but I'm not graced with opponents that share in that weakness. And as much as I prefer skill based matchmaking, even when it does have it; I'm still constantly matched with people I can't compete with on a mechanical level. And it just makes me want to return to PvE or Gambit. Also screw Trials. If you like it, good. But a PvP mode that tells you to do flawlessly or gtfo? No thanks. And it's very not cash money to lock cool looking transmogs and weapons behind this system. I'll take Iron Banner over Trials any day.