No Day One Raiding For Me

[Verios44]

So, they announced today that the upcoming reprised raid will launch September 1st. For me that means no chance of day one raiding.

To me this is horrible day selection on Bungie's part. I expect a good percentage of Americans and anyone else who follows Labor Day weekend to also be raked over the coals on this event.

I honestly expected August 25th.

[Snow Miser]

The contest mode is enabled for 48 hours, meaning that you can still play the mode on Saturday if you wish.

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Old Trapper:

The contest mode is enabled for 48 hours, meaning that you can still play the mode on Saturday if you wish.

Again? Ugh. If Bungie is gonna do this 48 hour thing consistently now then please at least make it take longer than the 6-12 hours most teams spent in RoN.

[Eriana]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Old Trapper:

The contest mode is enabled for 48 hours, meaning that you can still play the mode on Saturday if you wish.

Again? Ugh. If Bungie is gonna do this 48 hour thing consistently now then please at least make it take longer than the 6-12 hours most teams spent in RoN.

God forbid people have time to clear a raid

[Orion]

Originally posted by Eriana:

Originally posted by Kylito:

Again? Ugh. If Bungie is gonna do this 48 hour thing consistently now then please at least make it take longer than the 6-12 hours most teams spent in RoN.

God forbid people have time to clear a raid

We cant have fun here... what is this? you think its a game?

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Eriana:

Originally posted by Kylito:

Again? Ugh. If Bungie is gonna do this 48 hour thing consistently now then please at least make it take longer than the 6-12 hours most teams spent in RoN.

God forbid people have time to clear a raid

200K people cleared contest RoN. Contest raids used to be the single truly difficult piece of content left in the game.
People genuinely not being able to complete something is GOOD. It means that people who did complete it have something to be proud of. A day one emblem prior to RoN was a big deal, now they are far, far less rare.

[AloofHermit37]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Eriana:

God forbid people have time to clear a raid

200K people cleared contest RoN. Contest raids used to be the single truly difficult piece of content left in the game.
People genuinely not being able to complete something is GOOD. It means that people who did complete it have something to be proud of. A day one emblem prior to RoN was a big deal, now they are far, far less rare.

the reason so many people cleared RoN on contest mode was because it wasn't as difficult, the world first fireteam beat it in 2 hours

[Kylito]

Originally posted by AloofHermit37:

Originally posted by Kylito:

200K people cleared contest RoN. Contest raids used to be the single truly difficult piece of content left in the game.
People genuinely not being able to complete something is GOOD. It means that people who did complete it have something to be proud of. A day one emblem prior to RoN was a big deal, now they are far, far less rare.

the reason so many people cleared RoN on contest mode was because it wasn't as difficult, the world first fireteam beat it in 2 hours

Yes, but that 48-hours window was certainly a factor. Take Vow for instance. It had a 48-hour window. And yet a fifth as many people completed that as RoN. This is the reason for my original comment:

"If Bungie is gonna do this 48 hour thing consistently now then please at least make it take longer than the 6-12 hours most teams spent in RoN."

Translation: the 48-hour window is fine and even good, so long as the difficulty is on-par with Vow or hopefully even more difficult.

If it's an easy raid, make it 24 hours to gate it a little bit. If it's an actually hard raid, then 48 hours is perfectly fine. My issue is only with the devaluing of day-one raids and their emblems, an activity once reserved for only the upper echelons of players has since become something dabbled in by casuals, to myriad success.

[Verios44]

I guess I should clarify my stance. Its fairly simple. I was planning to do another day one with a team I constantly play with. Most of us have families, but raid constantly weekly. We all anticipated they would put the raid on August 25th due to Bungie's past habits. Both Kings Fall and Vog occurred on week one of those respective seasons.

When the announcement of 9/1 happened half of our team had to quit due to pre-made plans.

Yes not everyone celebrates Labor Day, or every country has a equivalent holiday on that day, but its just a bad taste in mouth decision. Even more as I fully expect at least 40% of Bungie's own staff have PTO time for the week before or after. Its a fairly common holiday week/weekend time, in the US anyway.

Yes the original purpose was fustration and a bit of a rant. I wont deny that. My clan had almost 4 day one raid teams getting ready now we have one due to this unexpected date selection.

[Orion]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Eriana:

God forbid people have time to clear a raid

200K people cleared contest RoN. Contest raids used to be the single truly difficult piece of content left in the game.
People genuinely not being able to complete something is GOOD. It means that people who did complete it have something to be proud of. A day one emblem prior to RoN was a big deal, now they are far, far less rare.

You know... Lunching Contest in the working week is bad idea. Only no lifes and streamers have chanse to make it.
i dont mind 12/24h contest mode, but why not make it an weekend thing not friday?
Just give Dads and working adults chanse to at least try.

I did hit contest mode on RoN only cuz i coudl do it at weekends time, after getting good sleep after work.

[Snow Miser]

Originally posted by Orion:

You know... Lunching Contest in the working week is bad idea. Only no lifes and streamers have chanse to make it. i dont mind 24h contest mode, but why not make it an weekend thing not friday?

The main (assumed) reason is due to Bungie's staff being off on Weekends typically, with only part of the main development crew. If something were to break on the raid while they're gone, it wouldn't receive a full fix until the monday after.

To add onto that, Bungie apparently likes to place the biggest seasonal events (Day One's) on the worst possible spot on a calendar. The raid is released on September First, with Labor Day (In America) being on the 4th. So likely than not, some Bungie Employees will have a 3-day weekend.

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Old Trapper:

Originally posted by Orion:

You know... Lunching Contest in the working week is bad idea. Only no lifes and streamers have chanse to make it. i dont mind 24h contest mode, but why not make it an weekend thing not friday?

The main (assumed) reason is due to Bungie's staff being off on Weekends typically, with only part of the main development crew. If something were to break on the raid while they're gone, it wouldn't receive a full fix until the monday after.

To add onto that, Bungie apparently likes to place the biggest seasonal events (Day One's) on the worst possible spot on a calendar. The raid is released on September First, with Labor Day (In America) being on the 4th. So likely than not, some Bungie Employees will have a 3-day weekend.

If Bungie is like my company, a good 40-50% of their entire staff will be out that weekend and some like to start PTO early. Some take longer PTO.

[frying pan mann frfr]

which raid will it be? my guess is leviathan

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Rudol Von Stroheim:

which raid will it be? my guess is leviathan

I hope Levi and Eater never see the light of day again. Spire of Stars, Crown, or Wrath are the best options imo.

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Rudol Von Stroheim:

which raid will it be? my guess is leviathan

Rumor last I checked it is supposed to be crota.

Next guess is scourge.

[Snow Miser]

Originally posted by Kylito:

Originally posted by Rudol Von Stroheim:

which raid will it be? my guess is leviathan

I hope Levi and Eater never see the light of day again. Spire of Stars, Crown, or Wrath are the best options imo.

Wrath is likely the raid. Leviathan weapons are already in use under Season (17) right now, and Bungie typically waits a while before re-rolling weapons. Unless of course they were to create an entirely separate arsenal matching the leviathan theme... which is unlikely.

Looking at some of the weapons offered by Wrath, i'm excited. Machine Gun looks sick.