Bungie - Please Bring the old Campaigns back (Story DLCs)

[C_the_Warlock]

Hi Together,

I came back after taking a break from the game and just wanted to know, if I am getting things right here :)

So first of all, I love how Bungie is story telling in Destiny2 I loved the original Campaign, back in the days when Destiny 2 was on battle.net and also the New Light campaign they added later, also the story of forsaken was insane and emotional.

So I jumped back in the game and wanted to replay some old campaigns because I love them and I own every DLC till Witch Queen (due to the break) and now all old Campaigns are gone?!

So I payed fullprice for Destiny 2, I bought every DLC like Curse of Osiris, Warmind, Forsaken, Beyond Light, etc I own them in my steam library and am not able to play them, becaus they where removed from the game?
Bungie this must be a joke.

I spent a lot of money for the DLCs, all new Content is locked behind the Paywall and the old content is gone. So I either have to buy the new Stuff, or am only able to play the PVP-Matches and Strikes? Are you serious?

So I own the game except Lightfall and witch Queen and although I have every DLC else in my Library all for me that is left is the Crucible and strikes which is left over from the Main Titel? This is really bad Bungie.

If season-passes are gone after some time, it is totally fine by me, but these are story DLCs.

You where gladly taking my money for the DLCs so I expect them to be kept ingame and replay them as often and whenever I like.

This is the worst playerbase treatment I ever experiencend.

Either you bring them old Campaigns back or I want a refund for my money. Because if I am not able to play them, why do I still own them and payed for them.
Again this was not seasonal content, this where Story DLCs!

And agian this is the worst version of Games-as-a-service and the worst player treatment I ever heard of!

I hope I am not alone with this problem and Bungie will do something about it.

Cheers Mates, I wish you luck in the crucibles and fun with the game anyway
:)

[Snow Miser]

No. You paid for those campaigns nearly 3 years ago, and they weren't even purchases on steam if I remember correctly. All of those campaigns are now irrelevant, boring, and would add absolutely nothing to the game at its' current state.

[Maxine]

They don't give a ♥♥♥♥ lol

[Nakos]

Originally posted by the RatKing:

So I jumped back in the game and wanted to replay some old campaigns because I love them and I own every DLC till Witch Queen (due to the break) and now all old Campaigns are gone?!

What do you mean “now”? Most of that content was removed 2.5 years ago when Beyond Light came out. The rest was removed a year and a half ago when Witch Queen came out.

Understand: Beyond Light was functionally the start of Destiny 3, it may still be called Destiny 2, but that’s just a technicality. A lot of the old Destiny 2 content simply wasn’t up to the necessary standards required for the new engine.

Yes, it sucks that they removed content, but it was for technical reasons. You can read about it here if you want more detail:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49189
https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049202971-Destiny-Content-Vault

Originally posted by the RatKing:

So I payed fullprice for Destiny 2, I bought every DLC like Curse of Osiris, Warmind, Forsaken, Beyond Light, etc I own them in my steam library and am not able to play them, becaus they where removed from the game?
Bungie this must be a joke.

I spent a lot of money for the DLCs, all new Content is locked behind the Paywall and the old content is gone. So I either have to buy the new Stuff, or am only able to play the PVP-Matches and Strikes? Are you serious?

Destiny 2 is not a product, it’s a service. You are not buying things. You’re buying access. And you had access. But that access was for the service lifetime of the content, and said service lifetime was (and is) the sole province of Bungie to determine. Bungie retains all ownership rights. (This is the standard for software EULAs, and has been for decades. I’m NOT telling you you have to like it, but it is the current industry standard).

Originally posted by the RatKing:

So I own the game except Lightfall and witch Queen and although I have every DLC else in my Library all for me that is left is the Crucible and strikes which is left over from the Main Titel? This is really bad Bungie.

Some of the content from Forsaken remains in the game. All of the Shadowkeep Expansion content remains in the game. All of the Beyond Light Expansion content remains in the game. If you have those, you still have access to all of that.

Originally posted by the RatKing:

I hope I am not alone with this problem and Bungie will do something about it.

Alone? No, but you are a bit late to the party.

[C_the_Warlock]

Originally posted by Old Trapper:

No. You paid for those campaigns nearly 3 years ago, and they weren't even purchases on steam if I remember correctly. All of those campaigns are now irrelevant, boring, and would add absolutely nothing to the game at its' current state.

Thanks for your Feedback, they DLCs were for purchase on steam for that I am Sure.

And I agree that they might be irrelevant for the currant game, but for me they are not boring and would add some nostalgia to the game.

The point that bothers me here is as follows:

If you bought an good boardgame and played it 50 Times and it gets boring and you don't Touch it for 5 years, but than you remeber after 6 years, there was this boardgame you loved to play, you can pull it out and play it again, because you payed for it and own it.

So what I am trying to say here, is that Bungie removed my good old beloved boardgame ;)

[C_the_Warlock]

Originally posted by Nakos:

Originally posted by the RatKing:

So I jumped back in the game and wanted to replay some old campaigns because I love them and I own every DLC till Witch Queen (due to the break) and now all old Campaigns are gone?!

What do you mean “now”? Most of that content was removed 2.5 years ago when Beyond Light came out. The rest was removed a year and a half ago when Witch Queen came out.

Understand: Beyond Light was functionally the start of Destiny 3, it may still be called Destiny 2, but that’s just a technicality. A lot of the old Destiny 2 content simply wasn’t up to the necessary standards required for the new engine.

Yes, it sucks that they removed content, but it was for technical reasons. You can read about it here if you want more detail:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49189
https://help.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/360049202971-Destiny-Content-Vault

Originally posted by the RatKing:

So I payed fullprice for Destiny 2, I bought every DLC like Curse of Osiris, Warmind, Forsaken, Beyond Light, etc I own them in my steam library and am not able to play them, becaus they where removed from the game?
Bungie this must be a joke.

I spent a lot of money for the DLCs, all new Content is locked behind the Paywall and the old content is gone. So I either have to buy the new Stuff, or am only able to play the PVP-Matches and Strikes? Are you serious?

Destiny 2 is not a product, it’s a service. You are not buying things. You’re buying access. And you had access. But that access was for the service lifetime of the content, and said service lifetime was (and is) the sole province of Bungie to determine. Bungie retains all ownership rights. (This is the standard for software EULAs, and has been for decades. I’m NOT telling you you have to like it, but it is the current industry standard).

Originally posted by the RatKing:

So I own the game except Lightfall and witch Queen and although I have every DLC else in my Library all for me that is left is the Crucible and strikes which is left over from the Main Titel? This is really bad Bungie.

Some of the content from Forsaken remains in the game. All of the Shadowkeep Expansion content remains in the game. All of the Beyond Light Expansion content remains in the game. If you have those, you still have access to all of that.

Originally posted by the RatKing:

I hope I am not alone with this problem and Bungie will do something about it.

Alone? No, but you are a bit late to the party.

Thanks for your time and your Feedback.

As I said I took a break from the game and was coming back to it the last few days.

I thought i didn't play it for maybe half a year or maximum a year or so.
Hard to hear, that it was actually over 2 years ago, because I stopped playing right after i finished beyond light.

I agree that bungie is a game-as-a-service and that Things change, but it is still a GAME-as-a-service.
Sure they are evolving and updating stuff, but I am playing many Games-as-a-servie Titels and it is nearly never the case that Things get removed, they are only added to the games.

So I get your point, that you are paying for the access, but once you bought your key, you should be able to open the lock as often as you want.
So for newer players the old DLCs might be irrelevant and they maybe don't want to buy and play the old Campaigns but as I said, once you bought them, you should be able to keep playing it, because as you said, you payed for the access and the access is now gone.

And as I already mentiont other games-as-a-service are also updating, or adding New mechanics, or New Map Areas etc. But I don't play or know one single game, where the old Things get removed :(

[trukr]

Originally posted by the RatKing:

So I jumped back in the game and wanted to replay some old campaigns because I love them and I own every DLC till Witch Queen (due to the break) and now all old Campaigns are gone?!

The problem is, how can you be surprised by the content being gone when you have everything up to Witch Queen? Year one content was removed at the launch of Beyond Light.

I get that you want all the content that was removed to be brought back, but two things might help. Most of us didn't like it being removed.
1 Go tell Bungie where they are, at least on their forum if not on their Twitter.
2 leave the drama behind and just explain that you would like the content returned.

[C_the_Warlock]

Originally posted by trukr:

Originally posted by the RatKing:

So I jumped back in the game and wanted to replay some old campaigns because I love them and I own every DLC till Witch Queen (due to the break) and now all old Campaigns are gone?!

The problem is, how can you be surprised by the content being gone when you have everything up to Witch Queen? Year one content was removed at the launch of Beyond Light.

I get that you want all the content that was removed to be brought back, but two things might help. Most of us didn't like it being removed.
1 Go tell Bungie where they are, at least on their forum if not on their Twitter.
2 leave the drama behind and just explain that you would like the content returned.

Than apologizies for the Drama ;) you summerized exactly what I tryed to do, but sadly I don't use Twitter, so I hoped Bungie maybe would read it here on steam.

But thanks for the Advoce with their Forum, this is a good point, I will do that :)

[Kylito]

Originally posted by Max:

They don't give a ♥♥♥♥ lol

This. They didn't care about changing course 3 years ago, you think they want to go back?

[Kylito]

Originally posted by the RatKing:

Originally posted by Old Trapper:

No. You paid for those campaigns nearly 3 years ago, and they weren't even purchases on steam if I remember correctly. All of those campaigns are now irrelevant, boring, and would add absolutely nothing to the game at its' current state.

Thanks for your Feedback, they DLCs were for purchase on steam for that I am Sure.

And I agree that they might be irrelevant for the currant game, but for me they are not boring and would add some nostalgia to the game.

The point that bothers me here is as follows:

If you bought an good boardgame and played it 50 Times and it gets boring and you don't Touch it for 5 years, but than you remeber after 6 years, there was this boardgame you loved to play, you can pull it out and play it again, because you payed for it and own it.

So what I am trying to say here, is that Bungie removed my good old beloved boardgame ;)

The difference is that a boardgame is a physical possession. You buy it, and can touch it and keep it. This is something you understand and know as you buy it. With D2, it's an online game, so what you are buying is access to an intangible game kept on a server somewhere. Some day, maybe years, maybe decades from now, that game will cease to exist, as all online games eventually do. You are paying for something that is not a guarantee and may stop being available. Doesn't make it any better, but it's not the same as a boardgame.

[AloofHermit37]

maybe after next years expansion The Final Shape, they will start to bring back old content like the original campaigns and raids

[Kylito]

Originally posted by AloofHermit37:

maybe after next years expansion The Final Shape, they will start to bring back old content like the original campaigns and raids

Maybe raids and quests, can't see much reason for the campaigns aside from new players stopping bringing question this up.

[trukr]

Originally posted by the RatKing:

Originally posted by trukr:

The problem is, how can you be surprised by the content being gone when you have everything up to Witch Queen? Year one content was removed at the launch of Beyond Light.

I get that you want all the content that was removed to be brought back, but two things might help. Most of us didn't like it being removed.
1 Go tell Bungie where they are, at least on their forum if not on their Twitter.
2 leave the drama behind and just explain that you would like the content returned.

Than apologizies for the Drama ;) you summerized exactly what I tryed to do, but sadly I don't use Twitter, so I hoped Bungie maybe would read it here on steam.

But thanks for the Advoce with their Forum, this is a good point, I will do that :)

Maybe if enough people pester them, they will do it, or just tell us to shut up.