just remove the thresher from the game

[thedeaddude]

heat seeking one shot missile is just plan dumb and back design

[aws]

they only one shot on neomuna because you are constantly 10-20 power levels under

[Dave]

no im 1816 and still get one shot by them. they are broken strong....

[Orion]

Originally posted by Dave:

no im 1816 and still get one shot by them. they are broken strong....

It has something to do with Fps bug when you are above 60. Well at last thats what reddit and forum says

[mowren]

It's very easily reproducable when you set your game to 30 FPS. Threshers shoot three missiles and the first one will only damage you for about 1/3 of your healthbar. Higher FPS result in those missiles hitting you faster.

[Shatred]

it's the same developers that thought having NiMbUsSsSss as the main character was a good idea rather then Rohan.

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Shatred:

it's the same developers that thought having NiMbUsSsSss as the main character was a good idea rather then Rohan.

This happens because the engine uses FPS for damage calculation. Its a very old method. It would take a complete engine change to fix this issue, not exactly a simple task.

Also this game is console based, and most consoles even PS5/XBX still operate at 60 fps or lower.

[Ryuukaze]

Originally posted by Verios44:

Originally posted by Shatred:

it's the same developers that thought having NiMbUsSsSss as the main character was a good idea rather then Rohan.

This happens because the engine uses FPS for damage calculation. Its a very old method. It would take a complete engine change to fix this issue, not exactly a simple task.

Also this game is console based, and most consoles even PS5/XBX still operate at 60 fps or lower.

I find it very hard to believe that they can't find a way to make this work properly with this engine. There are multiple ways to handle it, even if your engine doesn't have a constant tick rate that's not tied to FPS. You can scale the damage by the framerate, or you could limit the max damage to a certain amount, and those are just off the top of my head.

In this case, it sounds like damage is caused by the speed of the projectile? Then fix that by scaling it with framerate instead. That means that not only is it doing more damage, but it's harder to get away from because it's faster. That's insane.

I've solved the problem for myself by setting my FPS at 30. But that's a really awful solution for the user.

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Ryuukaze:

Originally posted by Verios44:

This happens because the engine uses FPS for damage calculation. Its a very old method. It would take a complete engine change to fix this issue, not exactly a simple task.

Also this game is console based, and most consoles even PS5/XBX still operate at 60 fps or lower.

I find it very hard to believe that they can't find a way to make this work properly with this engine. There are multiple ways to handle it, even if your engine doesn't have a constant tick rate that's not tied to FPS. You can scale the damage by the framerate, or you could limit the max damage to a certain amount, and those are just off the top of my head.

In this case, it sounds like damage is caused by the speed of the projectile? Then fix that by scaling it with framerate instead. That means that not only is it doing more damage, but it's harder to get away from because it's faster. That's insane.

I've solved the problem for myself by setting my FPS at 30. But that's a really awful solution for the user.

Its not just damage taken/outbound affected its also physics. If you ran the new raid, the jumping platforms behave wildly at different fps's. At 30/60 behave as normal. At 120 still can be fine, but above that its either gonna toss ypu very fast, too high, or just drop you.

Keep in mind they are using a heavily modified version of the Halo Reach engine.

[trukr]

A lot of the time when I see one, I find something I can get behind and still see the upper part and start shooting it. That gets it to shoot at me and eventually I take it out. Takes the heat off of anyone else. When one or more help it's not long to remove the Thresher. I do think they hit a bit too hard though, it's annoying.

[Ravnhood]

Holy crap! I had no idea damage was tied to framerate! That is pathetic and explains so much! But there is no way I'm intentionally lowering my framerate below 60. That's garbage.

[Eriana]

Originally posted by thedeaddude:

heat seeking one shot missile is just plan dumb and back design

Fun fact, you can shoot the missiles to destroy them