Way to go bungo

[0Skill]

Osiris and nimbus want me to go out like rohan

[burner19]

Nimbus was bungies way to include gender neutral generation z stereotype.

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by burner19:

Nimbus was bungies way to include gender neutral generation z stereotype.

That’s such a nonissue. The text after talking to Nimbus says “they” a few times and that’s it. It’s not even in the dialogue.
Lightfall’s writing is real bad, but this single, tiny aspect is not why.

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Originally posted by burner19:

Nimbus was bungies way to include gender neutral generation z stereotype.

That’s such a nonissue. The text after talking to Nimbus says “they” a few times and that’s it. It’s not even in the dialogue.
Lightfall’s writing is real bad, but this single, tiny aspect is not why.

Thats the sad part. The story telling is horrible. BUT the gameplay is top notch. I can even look beyond the small ish patrol zones and Neomuna general design, but yea...soo many plot holes.

Wont stop me from playing, ill live in the new raid as usual anyway but still. The story is a major issue.

[burner19]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Originally posted by burner19:

Nimbus was bungies way to include gender neutral generation z stereotype.

That’s such a nonissue. The text after talking to Nimbus says “they” a few times and that’s it. It’s not even in the dialogue.
Lightfall’s writing is real bad, but this single, tiny aspect is not why.

I think its both. Bad writing and having forced character for inclusion and political correctnes. Thats why no one like nimbus. It dosent fit destiny at all. Was badly written and feels forced on entry. It lacks destinys pazaz.

[Nain]

i just played the free2play intro quest (i buy at a discount, if at all). but i guess nimbus is the younger one and rohan is the older one?

i sure as hell did not like that young character, at all. first impressions matter, and that char felt so out of place.. like an anime superhero. wont comment on the looks tho. theres just something wrong.

[Coldhands]

Originally posted by burner19:

Originally posted by Coldhands:

That’s such a nonissue. The text after talking to Nimbus says “they” a few times and that’s it. It’s not even in the dialogue.
Lightfall’s writing is real bad, but this single, tiny aspect is not why.

I think its both. Bad writing and having forced character for inclusion and political correctnes. Thats why no one like nimbus. It dosent fit destiny at all. Was badly written and feels forced on entry. It lacks destinys pazaz.

People are mad about Nimbus because they're looking to be mad about "forced inclusion" in everything. Lightfall's writing has massive issues and people mad this one character is called "they" every once in a while are choosing to be upset about something entirely inconsequential instead because it fits their agenda.

Players should be upset the MacGuffin you're chasing is never explained, or that Strand just shows up out of no where for seemingly no reason and that's never addressed, or that the events of final cutscene mean nothing because the player has no idea what's happening and nothing changes, or that the NPCs you talk to in the tower after that cutscene act like something very different and nonsensical just happened but then don't really react to it. That's the stuff wrong with Lightfall. Nimbus is just dumber looking, more annoying Cayde.

[burner19]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

Originally posted by burner19:

I think its both. Bad writing and having forced character for inclusion and political correctnes. Thats why no one like nimbus. It dosent fit destiny at all. Was badly written and feels forced on entry. It lacks destinys pazaz.

People are mad about Nimbus because they're looking to be mad about "forced inclusion" in everything. Lightfall's writing has massive issues and people mad this one character is called "they" every once in a while are choosing to be upset about something entirely inconsequential instead because it fits their agenda.

Players should be upset the MacGuffin you're chasing is never explained, or that Strand just shows up out of no where for seemingly no reason and that's never addressed, or that the events of final cutscene mean nothing because the player has no idea what's happening and nothing changes, or that the NPCs you talk to in the tower after that cutscene act like something very different and nonsensical just happened but then don't really react to it. That's the stuff wrong with Lightfall. Nimbus is just dumber looking, more annoying Cayde.

Not realy. Cayde just worked and nimbus dont and its not because people want to hate, nimbus is just badly written and badly designed glued from every gen z stereotype. When im hearing his dialogues my braincells die. Can write on the same level as somone that designed him. Example - Wow dude thats so rad you go and blam kaboom and kick butt its so cool.

[Coldhands]

^I agree (though I also found Cayde kind of annoying) but none of that has anything to do with Nimbus being nonbinary. That's all dialogue and personality. Nimbus wouldn't be any different if the game called them a he.

[burner19]

Originally posted by Coldhands:

^I agree (though I also found Cayde kind of annoying) but none of that has anything to do with Nimbus being nonbinary. That's all dialogue and personality. Nimbus wouldn't be any different if the game called them a he.

Its written all around him. There is no other character like that and bungie is all for inclusion so sooner on later thay had to put in character like that but they glued that character from every stereotype there is and christened it with that pronoun debuckle. If it was done properly and had depth to it i wouldnt said a thing. But nimbus has every holywood attempt for inclusion written all over that character. Also his voice modulated to be neither male or female, face feminine and body masculine. Built to have all checkboxes marked. Its my opinion and i will not convince you otherwise and you will also dont convince me. So lets part it at that.

[meowbeast]

Originally posted by burner19:

Originally posted by Coldhands:

^I agree (though I also found Cayde kind of annoying) but none of that has anything to do with Nimbus being nonbinary. That's all dialogue and personality. Nimbus wouldn't be any different if the game called them a he.

Its written all around him. There is no other character like that and bungie is all for inclusion so sooner on later thay had to put in character like that but they glued that character from every stereotype there is and christened it with that pronoun debuckle. If it was done properly and had depth to it i wouldnt said a thing. But nimbus has every holywood attempt for inclusion written all over that character. Also his voice modulated to be neither male or female, face feminine and body masculine. Built to have all checkboxes marked. Its my opinion and i will not convince you otherwise and you will also dont convince me. So lets part it at that.

If Nimbus was not non-binary, would lightfall be good? The only one being political is you.

[burner19]

Originally posted by meowbeast:

Originally posted by burner19:

Its written all around him. There is no other character like that and bungie is all for inclusion so sooner on later thay had to put in character like that but they glued that character from every stereotype there is and christened it with that pronoun debuckle. If it was done properly and had depth to it i wouldnt said a thing. But nimbus has every holywood attempt for inclusion written all over that character. Also his voice modulated to be neither male or female, face feminine and body masculine. Built to have all checkboxes marked. Its my opinion and i will not convince you otherwise and you will also dont convince me. So lets part it at that.

If Nimbus was not non-binary, would lightfall be good? The only one being political is you.

Not realy. This discussion was from the start about nimbus and not if he made expansion good or bad. That part is you. I discused with Coldhands and he has his opinion and we disagree but he was very polite in this discussion and i respect him for that. Yet your aproach feel much more agressive in take and spinning this discussion and making it about the dlc which is not. It was about badly written cliche character that feels generic and fills all the checkboxes instead of being original and ineresting. Wasted opportunity in my mind. I mean they should work more on character development more than to have all checkboxes marked for inclusion purpose and i think thats because of that writer was owerwhelmed and couldnt properly build this hero and went for shortcuts and glued him from every present holywood production level cliches. Thats not political thats how things work in entertaiment lately.