Funnelweb really THAT good?

[Frietbal]

I read some guides that state Funneweb is the best SMG, both for PvP and PvE. None of the guides ever state that Riskrunner is best.

Now I dont understand that, RR has an impact of 20 and 900 RPM, FW has an impact of 15 and also 900RPM.

I can understand FW being better when Void is your thing, or if you would prefer an exotic in another weapon slot. But consider this being the only Exotic I have, then RR is way better right?

What am I missing that makes FW better?

[Fay]

cuz its not exo?

[Frietbal]

Right. As I have no other exo, then Riskrunner is still better?

I am just wondering why the guides all say FW is better.

[Fay]

ther tons of exo guns wich are better than RR thats why fb is a go to smg you should not care about RR instead try to get other exo guns

[Horn]

It has a good perk pool, that's enough. I wouldn't say it's the best smg tho. It was the best, but then Calus Mini-tool came out which has Incandescent perk and can be crafted.

[Toy the Ork]

I recommend you to check "Calus mini tool " which you can craft as you like for pve and "Out of bounds" for pvp too.

[Ixamesh]

Exotics usually have better stats than their legendary counterparts, but you can have only one exotic weapon equipped. There're exotic primaries that can clear adds really fast or do damage on par with special weapons or heavies. Legendary guns and your abilities can also clear adds fast, however, and some exotic special and heavy weapon can do even more damage or provide utility, so people reserve their exotic slot for those.

[fwwm]

in pvp funnelweb has a lower ttk, is a lightweight frame so you get mobility bonus and extra sprint speed, and has higher range because it can roll with things like killing wind and rangefinder

for pve you can roll funnelweb with things like frenzy and adrenaline junkie which gives it higher damage, and if you're on void, you can proc things like volatile rounds with it, which makes it very good for ad clear.

it also doesn't take up an exotic slot, and in higher tier pve activities, people tend to prefer exotic specials like arbalest, witherhoard etc or things like Gjally.

[R A Z E R]

Imo the duality smg is better than funnelweb. I also like my mini tool more then my funnelweb.

[Pharaoh]

It's 'alright.' SMGs in general are a sore spot for me because of the excruciatingly slow reload speed and low ammo (even with the Backup Mag Mod only providing 3to4 extra rounds). It's a joke sometimes. And I don't like to have to equip reload mods in exchange for more useful utility mods in the arms slot just to help. Finding the right perks to increase reload and handling are helpful, but overall, I just can't find love for the Funnelweb like others. I'd rather just use LeMon and then Krait (or similar) in Primary for a fast shoot / high round count weapon.

It would be nice if there were more viable VOID Auto Rifle options for Void than are currently. Only one I know of is Gnawing Hunger (https://www.light.gg/db/items/821154603/gnawing-hunger/) which drops from Gambit and it's horrible.

But when I have to get void kills or smg kills, pretty much only time I use it. I honestly vote that it is not all that.

[Tunnfisk]

Originally posted by Frietbal:

I read some guides that state Funneweb is the best SMG, both for PvP and PvE. None of the guides ever state that Riskrunner is best.

Now I dont understand that, RR has an impact of 20 and 900 RPM, FW has an impact of 15 and also 900RPM.

I can understand FW being better when Void is your thing, or if you would prefer an exotic in another weapon slot. But consider this being the only Exotic I have, then RR is way better right?

What am I missing that makes FW better?

It's subjective to a certain degree. However in my opinion, all SMGs with 900 RPM and 37 base mag are the best. Both of PvP and PvE. Funnelweb is void so it suits void subclass for PvE. Riskrunner is arc and an exotic. I personally don't like RR in PvP and it's okay in PvE.

The issue I have with RR in PvE is that it needs to be primed. Osteo Striga and any voltshot does this with ease while RR relies on you blowing yourself up with an arc grenade or that enemies use arc weapons. Making it's use limited. Any hard content prefers other exotics so it limits RR even further from being useful.

At the end of the day it's all about personal preference and what you enjoy using.

[Viridian]

Riskrunner technically has the highest TTK value (high = bad, low = good) of all 900s in PvP and crappy actual range (don't look at the stat bars bruh). Nobody in their sane mind would pick it over god roll FW. As for PvE, ability spam does most of the heavy lifting, i dunno why would you want to manually click on things as if it was still year 1 or just take Trinity Ghoul which does ad clear way better.

[Tunnfisk]

Originally posted by Pharaoh:

It's 'alright.' SMGs in general are a sore spot for me because of the excruciatingly slow reload speed and low ammo (even with the Backup Mag Mod only providing 3to4 extra rounds). It's a joke sometimes. And I don't like to have to equip reload mods in exchange for more useful utility mods in the arms slot just to help. Finding the right perks to increase reload and handling are helpful, but overall, I just can't find love for the Funnelweb like others. I'd rather just use LeMon and then Krait (or similar) in Primary for a fast shoot / high round count weapon.

It would be nice if there were more viable VOID Auto Rifle options for Void than are currently. Only one I know of is Gnawing Hunger (https://www.light.gg/db/items/821154603/gnawing-hunger/) which drops from Gambit and it's horrible.

But when I have to get void kills or smg kills, pretty much only time I use it. I honestly vote that it is not all that.

This is where reload stat comes into play. I run Flared Magwell and Frenzy on my Funnelweb. Base stat is 2.03 second reload. Add reload perk on arms lowers this further and when Frenzy is up it will be something like 1.4-1.5 seconds. Can't find the correct time but it is low. Low enough to not have a long load. I also run Subsistence, meaning ammo returned into the mag on kills. This is all PvE of course.

[Potatochobit Lv3 pwrd Next Form]

put funnel web away after the void subclass event was over.
never used it since.
it's a fine gun but you can craft the calus one so why bother?
also gnawing hunger is purple and breaks anti barriers.