Vox obscura needs matchmaking change my mind

[Sinjin The Monke]

♥♥♥♥ having to go onto reddit or wherever just to recruit randoms, just add matchmaking. there is 0 reason to not have it on this absurdly difficult mission.

or stop locking exotics behind terrible mechanics like this. This is why people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate this game.

[R A Z E R]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Hashley Hashbrowns:

This is xur speaking and the intergalatic horse speaking.WELCOME TO TONIGHT'S GAME OF DARES OF ETERNITY.

"Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars"

[Techno2k8]

Meh it can be solo'd once you have a decent power level.

[Hashley Hashbrowns]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Hashley Hashbrowns:

This is xur speaking and the intergalatic horse speaking.WELCOME TO TONIGHT'S GAME OF DARES OF ETERNITY.

"Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars"

'Time bending neigh of reality'

[R A Z E R]

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"Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars"

'Time bending neigh of reality'

“Big money, big bucks, big money” - Press Your Luck

[Etraux]

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I mean I managed to teach sprouts DDR FFXIV savage raids in PUGs, I'm sure I'll manage to teach blueberries the intricacies of "stand on bit to complete the puzzle", "shoot the obelisk with symbols" and "split in two and tell the symbol ".

But I appreciate your concern.

you have 6 raid completions in your entire time in D2, your last being a year ago, you couldn't even manage to complete Duality in your solitary 2 and a half hour attempt. you ain't teaching anyone anything lol.

"I have no counter argument therefore I'll resort to attacking your person". Neato, I knew that coming back to these forums was a mistake. Maybe someday quality of discussions will improve, oh well.

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Etraux:

Hey, that was your argument. Remember this?



Nightfalls in D1 were endgame activity. Now they have matchmaking and difficulty selection. So, you tried to "gotcha" me but failed. Moving on.

adding matchmaking to endgame activities =/= creating a low difficulty version of a nightfall strike.

like I said, clutching at straws lmao

Początkowo opublikowane przez hemddd:

I mean it actually is, and is the literal reason for there not being matchmaking lol. the bulk of the playerbase is not good enough at the game for a random matchmaking experience to be playable for most people.

By that logic matchmaking should be removed everywhere up to and including patrol zones. But it's not. But, again, that's not the argument I make. Moving further along.

nah you're just taking my comment out of context to create a pretty awful strawman argument that doesn't even make sense (like most of the stuff you type tbh)

Początkowo opublikowane przez hemddd:

you seem to mistake discussing why there is no matchmaking for 'protesting against adding matchmaking'. explaining why matchmaking isn't there and why it would not be a good idea is not 'protesting', furthermore we're not constantly asking Bungie to 'not add matchmaking'. people make these posts all the time, and they get told why matchmaking doesn't exist in response, that's not protesting lol.

lel, here, answer yourself

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clutching.... at...... straws.......

I don't think you understand this phrase lol

again. this entire time you have not come up with a single valid reason for matchmaking to exist and have failed on almost every occasion to refute any arguments made back to you. and now you're just resorting to making bad strawman arguments that aren't even going anywhere. amazing, good work. [/quote]
You brought up lies and now mad that I pointed them out. Try better next time

[Hashley Hashbrowns]

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'Time bending neigh of reality'

“Big money, big bucks, big money” - Press Your Luck

'Dares of Eternity welcomes an old enemy, give it up for the hive.'

[fwwm]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Etraux:

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you have 6 raid completions in your entire time in D2, your last being a year ago, you couldn't even manage to complete Duality in your solitary 2 and a half hour attempt. you ain't teaching anyone anything lol.

"I have no counter argument therefore I'll resort to attacking your person". Neato, I knew that coming back to these forums was a mistake. Maybe someday quality of discussions will improve, oh well.

pointing out your lack of experience and raid completions is an attack on your person? lol ok, maybe if video games are you entire life and you have nothing else. ultimately you try and talk the talk and pretend you could easily teach a raid to 5 other random matchmade players, when you can't even finish a dungeon in a premade fireteam with your friends. you're intellectually dishonest and you know it.

You brought up lies and now mad that I pointed them out. Try better next time

I brought up lies? literally have no idea what you are referring to, but please, tell me what these lies are lmao? I won't hold my breath.

[Yürei]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Etraux:

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Doesn't matter if it's a couple of hours ago, you wrote it and i reply to it.. That's how a general public forum works, it's not like i'm here necroing/bumping a 3/4 year old post or something.

My point still stands.

I mean I managed to teach sprouts DDR FFXIV savage raids in PUGs, I'm sure I'll manage to teach blueberries the intricacies of "stand on bit to complete the puzzle", "shoot the obelisk with symbols" and "split in two and tell the symbol ".

But I appreciate your concern.

Part of me really REALLY doubts that you taught people who did matchmaking and not people from party finder. Tho I do not remember if there was even a way to matchmake savage.

[Etraux]

Początkowo opublikowane przez hemddd:

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"I have no counter argument therefore I'll resort to attacking your person". Neato, I knew that coming back to these forums was a mistake. Maybe someday quality of discussions will improve, oh well.

pointing out your lack of experience and raid completions is an attack on your person? lol ok, maybe if video games are you entire life and you have nothing else. ultimately you try and talk the talk and pretend you could easily teach a raid to 5 other random matchmade players, when you can't even finish a dungeon in a premade fireteam with your friends. you're intellectually dishonest and you know it.

You brought up lies and now mad that I pointed them out. Try better next time

I brought up lies? literally have no idea what you are referring to, but please, tell me what these lies are lmao? I won't hold my breath.

Ah, the no matchmaking for high-end pve in 8 years wasn't a lie in your eyes. Talk about intellectual dishonesty.

And yes, changing subject from my argument to my person is ad hominem.

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

[R A Z E R]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez hemddd:

you have 6 raid completions in your entire time in D2, your last being a year ago, you couldn't even manage to complete Duality in your solitary 2 and a half hour attempt. you ain't teaching anyone anything lol.

"I have no counter argument therefore I'll resort to attacking your person". Neato, I knew that coming back to these forums was a mistake. Maybe someday quality of discussions will improve, oh well.

Początkowo opublikowane przez hemddd:

adding matchmaking to endgame activities =/= creating a low difficulty version of a nightfall strike.

like I said, clutching at straws lmao


By that logic matchmaking should be removed everywhere up to and including patrol zones. But it's not. But, again, that's not the argument I make. Moving further along.

nah you're just taking my comment out of context to create a pretty awful strawman argument that doesn't even make sense (like most of the stuff you type tbh)

lel, here, answer yourself

I don't think you understand this phrase lol

again. this entire time you have not come up with a single valid reason for matchmaking to exist and have failed on almost every occasion to refute any arguments made back to you. and now you're just resorting to making bad strawman arguments that aren't even going anywhere. amazing, good work.

Funny coming from the person that has 0 arguments to counter other arguments with.. I have yet to see 1 single good argument as to why raid matchmaking is supposed to be good.. I'll wait for it.

Time and time again, people in the game have proven why matchmaking for raids is a bad thing.. And time and time again, the only people who have complained about it on the forums are also the ones who have barely raided let alone having played 1 single raid at all..

[Yürei]

Początkowo opublikowane przez R A Z E R:

Funny coming from the person that has 0 arguments to counter other arguments with.. I have yet to see 1 single good argument as to why raid matchmaking is supposed to be good.. I'll wait for it.

Time and time again, people in the game have proven why matchmaking for raids is a bad thing.. And time and time again, the only people who have complained about it on the forums are also the ones who have barely raided let alone having played 1 single raid at all..

There isn't even a need for an argument for raid matchmaking. We technically already have it in Guided Games. Guess what? Its dead cause even people like the people for raid matchmaking realize that its wasn't a great idea.

[TheVoidSpirit]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Yürei:

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I mean I managed to teach sprouts DDR FFXIV savage raids in PUGs, I'm sure I'll manage to teach blueberries the intricacies of "stand on bit to complete the puzzle", "shoot the obelisk with symbols" and "split in two and tell the symbol ".

But I appreciate your concern.

Part of me really REALLY doubts that you taught people who did matchmaking and not people from party finder. Tho I do not remember if there was even a way to matchmake savage.

The newest Savage Tier (currently Pandaemonium 1-4) cannot be accessed through DF. Older Savages can, but close to none use DF for it.

[Yürei]

Początkowo opublikowane przez TheVoidSpirit:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Yürei:

Part of me really REALLY doubts that you taught people who did matchmaking and not people from party finder. Tho I do not remember if there was even a way to matchmake savage.

The newest Savage Tier (currently Pandaemonium 1-4) cannot be accessed through DF. Older Savages can, but close to none use DF for it.

Ah thx for clarifying. This just makes his claim of "teaching pubs" meaningless since its basicially using an lfg thats built into the game.

[Etraux]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez TheVoidSpirit:

The newest Savage Tier (currently Pandaemonium 1-4) cannot be accessed through DF. Older Savages can, but close to none use DF for it.

Ah thx for clarifying. This just makes his claim of "teaching pubs" meaningless since its basicially using an lfg thats built into the game.

For which I also advocate. In-game LFG board. But even that is verbotten to some. Oh well.

[Etraux]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Yürei:

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Funny coming from the person that has 0 arguments to counter other arguments with.. I have yet to see 1 single good argument as to why raid matchmaking is supposed to be good.. I'll wait for it.

Time and time again, people in the game have proven why matchmaking for raids is a bad thing.. And time and time again, the only people who have complained about it on the forums are also the ones who have barely raided let alone having played 1 single raid at all..

There isn't even a need for an argument for raid matchmaking. We technically already have it in Guided Games. Guess what? Its dead cause even people like the people for raid matchmaking realize that its wasn't a great idea.

Or it's dead because of 4 clan + 2 randoms format. Wonder why that specific format is not popular...