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Gökyüzü Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:07am
Question about damage buff's
Im realy in to making the most broken builds in the game so i was wondering how it was working
For my test i pick up some buffs

-Lumina : %35
-Gyrfalcon : %35
-Firing line : %20
-Font of Might : %25
-Shadowshot : %30

Now what i wanna know is, is it working like adding each other or multiplying each other
For example

Lumina + gyrfalcon + firingline + font of might + shadowshot
1+0,35+0,35+0,2+0,25+0,3 =%245

Or
Lumina x gyrfalcon x firingline x font of might x shadowshot
1,35 x 1,35 x 1,2 x 1,25 x 1,3 = %355

i could have test it in game but to day is a bit bussy and im still working it came to my mind and im realy curios
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Gökyüzü Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:10am 
oh and another question does star eater scales at max stack (%90 buff to super) efect shadowshot's weakening efect
Last edited by Gökyüzü; Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:11am
N33MA Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:27am 
Originally posted by Gökyüzü:
oh and another question does star eater scales at max stack (%90 buff to super) efect shadowshot's weakening efect
It does not effect shadowshot weaken. Only its damage.
N33MA Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:29am 
They should be multiplicative with each other, so the second approach if what I would expect to get. However, I'm pretty sure Gyrfalcons is not an amplification buff so it wouldn't be able to stack with everything along with Lumina.
Gökyüzü Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:32am 
Originally posted by N33MA:
They should be multiplicative with each other, so the second approach if what I would expect to get. However, I'm pretty sure Gyrfalcons is not an amplification buff so it wouldn't be able to stack with everything along with Lumina.
on a short term that i have test it i noticed it was stacking with well of radiance so im guessing it can stack with lumina
N33MA Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:34am 
Originally posted by Gökyüzü:
Originally posted by N33MA:
They should be multiplicative with each other, so the second approach if what I would expect to get. However, I'm pretty sure Gyrfalcons is not an amplification buff so it wouldn't be able to stack with everything along with Lumina.
on a short term that i have test it i noticed it was stacking with well of radiance so im guessing it can stack with lumina
It has a higher tier of empowerment buff than well (tier 3 to tier 2) so it would overtake the wells damage. I haven't tested it so I can't say for sure. If what you're saying is true then everything in your build checks out.
Last edited by N33MA; Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:34am
Ixamesh Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:51am 
Steam doesn't like direct docs links, so https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumDestiny/comments/uywimw/updated_to_s17_bestinslot_finder_damage/ Open the spreadsheet, there're a lot of other links in that spreadsheet, Damage Modifiers and Stacking Guide and D2 Data Compendium specifically. You can also just google them
Last edited by Ixamesh; Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:54am
Gökyüzü Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:55am 
Originally posted by N33MA:
Originally posted by Gökyüzü:
on a short term that i have test it i noticed it was stacking with well of radiance so im guessing it can stack with lumina
It has a higher tier of empowerment buff than well (tier 3 to tier 2) so it would overtake the wells damage. I haven't tested it so I can't say for sure. If what you're saying is true then everything in your build checks out.

I was testing taipan with frenzy + high energy fire + shadowshot + gyrfalcon
and only record i have on my pc right now i
its something like 1,15x1,2x1,3x1,35 : %242
and i was manage to hit 183 k
if that build adds up when gyrfalcon is back i will be able to hit 268k damn its so exiting
N33MA Oct 6, 2022 @ 2:58am 
I just found it in the guide. It says it's an empowerment buff so it shouldn't be able to stack with Lumina. Will stack over well since it is tier 3 according to the guide.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i1KUwgVkd8qhwYj481gkV9sZNJQCE-C3Q-dpQutPCi4/edit#gid=33320321
N33MA Oct 6, 2022 @ 3:00am 
Originally posted by Ixamesh:
Originally posted by N33MA:
Guide doesn't say whether it's amp buff or empowerment buff. At least not that I can find.
Stacking guide tab has all sources
I found it and deleted my first reply. Thank you for the resource.
Gökyüzü Oct 6, 2022 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by N33MA:
I just found it in the guide. It says it's an empowerment buff so it shouldn't be able to stack with Lumina. Will stack over well since it is tier 3 according to the guide.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i1KUwgVkd8qhwYj481gkV9sZNJQCE-C3Q-dpQutPCi4/edit#gid=33320321
so it will not gona be stack with well or lumina did i get it right
N33MA Oct 6, 2022 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by Gökyüzü:
Originally posted by N33MA:
I just found it in the guide. It says it's an empowerment buff so it shouldn't be able to stack with Lumina. Will stack over well since it is tier 3 according to the guide.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i1KUwgVkd8qhwYj481gkV9sZNJQCE-C3Q-dpQutPCi4/edit#gid=33320321
so it will not gona be stack with well or lumina did i get it right
yes, you understood correctly.
Gökyüzü Oct 6, 2022 @ 3:13am 
Sad i was expecting more but max i can get %263 with that way
ONE BUFF
ONE DEBUFF
+
ARMOUR MODS
LIGHT OR WELL MODS

The highest of each overrides the weakest, so a 30% buff from gyrfalcon overides everything else that is lower than 30%

same with debuffs

the mods are applied over these two
some effects that are lower overide things! like well of radience

you can stand in a well of radience and apply things like gyr it will be overidden by the well as is a super buff

its complicated to get at first but its quite simple once understood
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