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🐸♰Revy Sep 24, 2022 @ 1:11am
Will I understand the story if I start playing now?
I'm only about 15 hours into this game and as far as cutscenes and dialogue I've got no clue what the hell is going on. Feels like I jumped in halfway into a movie. I heard they removed older story content, is that true? Do I need youtube cutscenes or wiki to understand the story?
Originally posted by N33MA:
Even if you had the old content, you'd need to play D1 to understand some of the context. I'd say just cut your loses and watch one of the popular youtube videos (they're pretty good on their own).
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Horn Sep 24, 2022 @ 1:13am 
I doubt you'll understand anything, friend. Starting to play Destiny now is like starting to watch Game of Thrones from season five. Its a mess
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N33MA Sep 24, 2022 @ 1:24am 
Even if you had the old content, you'd need to play D1 to understand some of the context. I'd say just cut your loses and watch one of the popular youtube videos (they're pretty good on their own).
🐸♰Revy Sep 24, 2022 @ 1:29am 
Originally posted by N33MA:
Even if you had the old content, you'd need to play D1 to understand some of the context. I'd say just cut your loses and watch one of the popular youtube videos (they're pretty good on their own).
Yeah I'll probably watch a cutscene compilation and then get back to the game. Thanks
Steel Sep 24, 2022 @ 7:51pm 
The actual experience of playing D1 is confusing too because that game actually had less in-game storytelling than D2 does.
I remember that being a very common criticism when D1 first came out. People complained about not knowing what was going on and all the lore being hidden in those lore cards.

I don't think this game ever had IN-GAME storytelling that made sense start to finish. But of course it's even worse in D2 because of how they went all-in on the living ongoing world model so you can't even play the old campaigns... at some point they just gave up on new players I think.
Bnn1 Sep 24, 2022 @ 8:32pm 
Bungie has proven with Halo that they can't write a decent story.

Always some all-threatening entity threatens to destroy everything. Be it the Pyramids, Ghaul, Savathun, this, that. The Witness will be no different, heed my words. Boo hoo, all destroying entity, please destroy this entity before it destroys all of mankind! Always the same thing.

The real shame is that every Guardian is "the protagonist". Every player character has the option to play the campaign, and will, even if they never did, be refered to as someone who stopped Ghaul, stopped Savathun, recovered the Crow/Uldren, this, this, that, that.

Its kind of strange, and the plague of all RPG's and MMORPG-like games, you as the player are always the Hero. Other guardians may exist, but you are the Hero, you alone stop everything, you are THE HERO, you are the anime protagonist.

It's a cool concept for one or two Campaigns and DLC's, but after that, its just cliche.

You can opt out of that by simply not playing the Campaigns, Raids and Activities, but in the Future, Zavala and other people will still recall how you defeated "XYZ" and how you heroically destroyed "ABC". Ridiculous.

New lights who start now, are automatically Red War veterans, destroyers of Hive Gods and Ahamkaras, and this and that. This stacking Lore is the biggest issue of the series storytelling, even if you never played any campaign at all, you will be treated as if you did. Never saved the Crow? Well, the Crow will make sure to constantly commemorate and thank you for his rescue and your assistance and what all you did for him. Never once talked with the Spider? Well, for some reason the Spider has a good memory of "The Guardian" and their work for him.

It's not even story writing, most of the things you have to do each new season are copy pasted horde-based mote/object-dunking/zone securing that all existed in the previous seasons only with different branding and naming, and the ACTUAL Campaign storylines could not be more boringly written. For example, I haven't even figured out why we are killing Savathun in the main story, just run through it to get light, then run the higher difficulty one to get extra gear, never do it again.

Same with Ketchcrash and all that. Whos Eido, and why is the Spider back?

The Stories are just badly written, recycled Races and Characters don't help with it, and the Guardian always being the Unstoppable Force, Immovable Object, doesn't aid in the story depth as well.

You could remove all the storytelling from D2, and it would still be the same. Pretty much like Path of Exile and Diablo, everyone runs through to get max level and loot, but whats that, there is a story to it? Naw, never heard if it, got to gain levels, get gear, sorry Bro.

Bungie should abandon "Storytelling" and instead invest their time in upgrades to Gambit, Crucible, Matchmaking, Raids, fixing exploits and glitches and balancing the game.
LeftPaw Sep 24, 2022 @ 10:05pm 
I played it years back, but even with that experience I haven't a clue as to what it's all about apart from a big ball that lands and makes everyone into a super hero, the rest is dark to me. Even back then before they removed the main story campaign I was at a loss to most of what was going on and just played it as a looter shooter, so the game has never been good at explaining itself.
I can't even play it as a looter shooter anymore as the maps are boring, empty, uninteresting. A few blocks to run around with less detail than the first doom maps. There's noting here to grab me.
Birmingham Sep 25, 2022 @ 4:06am 
I stoped playing becuz i cant aford to buya new gaem every 3 months when they drop a new update.. its just to much..i stoped after witch queen..cost of liveing is a killer
Robin Sep 25, 2022 @ 5:27am 
You'll understand the "now" part of the story... just not the "full" story. However, you wouldn't understand the full story even if you'd played since d1 as most of it is hidden away in obscure lore pages and the like. My suggestion would be to just check out the videos that look interesting to you made by "my name is byf" on youtube and then play, or do it the other way around... start playing and if there's something you don't get, byf will have a video on it.

edit: the story in general has a very much dark soulsish take to it, you're not really meant to grasp it all, a lot of it is supposed to be mystical and apocryphal. The latest seasons though have much clearer up-front story lines, but they generally reach a climax toward the end of the season so a season later there's usually not that important even though there might be nods and callbacks here and there.
Last edited by Robin; Sep 25, 2022 @ 5:29am
Robin Sep 25, 2022 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by Horn:
I doubt you'll understand anything, friend. Starting to play Destiny now is like starting to watch Game of Thrones from season five. Its a mess

That's how Destiny 1 vanilla felt too :cute:
LeftPaw Sep 25, 2022 @ 11:55am 
I play Outriders and the lore and story is as plain as day. You also pickup short notes along the way to fill in the blank spots in the history, so you end up totally immersed in the world and situation.
Even the division 2 is quite easy to understand what's going on right from the start, even though they don't go overboard to explain things. And again they fill in the blanks as you play along.
It's not hard to pull the player into lore and story, but Destiny 2 seems to hold on to the knowledge like it was money.
Super Joe Sep 25, 2022 @ 1:16pm 
Even people who have played from the original Destiny on day one don't understand it. Just enjoy the ride!
LeftPaw Sep 25, 2022 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by Super Joe:
Even people who have played from the original Destiny on day one don't understand it. Just enjoy the ride!

One age I would. it was all about the action and beating the boss, but now that I'm older I need some sort of reason to play games that goes beyond pew-pew. I need to know why I'm doing and what I'm doing, plus, for what reason am I doing it.
Last edited by LeftPaw; Sep 25, 2022 @ 11:50pm
trukr Sep 25, 2022 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by LeftPaw:
Originally posted by Super Joe:
Even people who have played from the original Destiny on day one don't understand it. Just enjoy the ride!

One age I would. it was all about the action and beating the boss, but now that I'm older I need some sort of reason to play games that goes beyond pew-pew. I need to know why I'm doing what I'm doing and for what reason.

How old ARE you?
LeftPaw Sep 25, 2022 @ 11:48pm 
Originally posted by trukr:
Originally posted by LeftPaw:

One age I would. it was all about the action and beating the boss, but now that I'm older I need some sort of reason to play games that goes beyond pew-pew. I need to know why I'm doing what I'm doing and for what reason.

How old ARE you?

I am 70 and have been gaming since the very beginning and will never stop gaming until the very end.
Last edited by LeftPaw; Sep 25, 2022 @ 11:49pm
six of arcs Sep 26, 2022 @ 1:56am 
It is true that they put the Original starting campaign the "Red War" into the DCV as well as 2/3ds of the Forsaken campaign (second campaign with the dreaming city and Last Wish raid).
The Red War was really fun and good for me to get into D2 with, I felt like I had some grasp on the game back then. If I hadn't gotten into it then, I Definitely would not be able to get into it now. I'd say just watch streamers play; it's much more enjoyable. This game isn't worth picking up now. You'll have to pay $200 to unlock all the guns and raids, etc.
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Date Posted: Sep 24, 2022 @ 1:11am
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