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Vyrex Sep 22, 2022 @ 2:28pm
Krait which perk is better?
cant decide betwen 2 krait rifle, Overflow with one for all, or subsistence with headstone? (how usefull is headstone anyways? I feel like its kinda usefull to block some incoming shots when killing someone but no clue how effective it truly is in execution=
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Nakos Sep 22, 2022 @ 2:50pm 
I love Headstone, and the Krait I carry around has it.

I'd suggest downloading DIM and taking a look at it, it has a built in curated wishlist that helps sort the wheat from the dross.

You can find it on Bungie's companion apps page: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/registration/apps
IblisFlare Sep 22, 2022 @ 2:51pm 
DISCLAIMER: I speak from a PvE stance here. I say this since you didn't specify which mode you were looking for here.

The usefulness of headstone for you will vary greatly depending on if you run stasis or not. If you run stasis, then headstone is a fantastic perk that is always welcome in my opinion. If you don't run stasis, headstone is less useful, but still a good perk since it can freeze things and breaking the crystal can kill things close to it, but a lot of the value from the perk comes from synergies with the stasis subclass. Me personally, even without running stasis, I would take subsistence headstone because subsistence is such a good perk and works well with the origin trait on Krait to just let you keep firing without reloading. Plus, you'll get some extra crowd control here and there through headstone.
Last edited by IblisFlare; Sep 22, 2022 @ 2:52pm
Nakos Sep 22, 2022 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by IblisFlare:
I would take subsistence headstone because subsistence is such a good perk and works well with the origin trait on Krait to just let you keep firing without reloading.

Yeah, that.
Amereth Sep 22, 2022 @ 5:17pm 
Overflow... 144 bullet when you grab ammo on the ground.

Overflow pair very well with veist stinger. The more bullets you have the more chance to proc veist stinger.

Subsistence is just redundant.

Combine that with a damage perk of choice and you have a decent assault.
Tunnfisk Sep 23, 2022 @ 12:33am 
Personal preference and situational. I personally use Subsistance and Headstone as an add clearing gun.
ralphtobybob Sep 23, 2022 @ 8:18am 
Overflow. NPCs on planets and in public events are made of glass. They're tougher in strikes and season pass activities. It's nice to have over a 100 rounds available when it's taking about 50 or more rounds to kill an NPC. Plus it increments stasis kill bounties.
Some secondary perks aren't useful unless you're using that weapon as primary. If you're confronted with a lot of NPCs, a machine gun with high damage is your best bet. Some of the 25 damage ones are pathetic.
>//The_FALCON Sep 23, 2022 @ 9:05am 
subsistence is clearly best for low end pve

high end pve you're never gonna carry an auto rifle anyway due to anti champion mods and exotics required
Tunnfisk Sep 23, 2022 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by ralphtobybob:
Overflow. NPCs on planets and in public events are made of glass. They're tougher in strikes and season pass activities. It's nice to have over a 100 rounds available when it's taking about 50 or more rounds to kill an NPC. Plus it increments stasis kill bounties.
Some secondary perks aren't useful unless you're using that weapon as primary. If you're confronted with a lot of NPCs, a machine gun with high damage is your best bet. Some of the 25 damage ones are pathetic.

I'll debate you on that point. My Krait has 62 bullets. Subsistence grants 17% on kill for auto rifles, rounded up. Meaning 11 bullets per kill. I need about 5 to nuke a red health. Infinite ammo. You with Overflow have to pick up special and heavy ammo for it to work, you still have to reload. Clearly Subsistence is the superior perk for trash clearing. Now add Headstone and AoE nuke everything.
Pharaoh Sep 23, 2022 @ 11:56am 
Real quick; you do not need to run Stasis sub-class to benefit from Headstone on a weapon with that perk. Specific Fragments in the Stasis subclass will enhance various features of your game play that utilize the creation and destruction of Stasis crystals in which yes, you could do more damage and have a larger blast radius. However, using the weapon solely on its own does not diminish its potency otherwise.

Regarding Krait:

Light.gg is a wonderful resource curated by the community that allows the user to compare and contrast the perks of weapons that are the most popular whilst also placing each perk into a popularity rating system allowing you to compare other perks in that same slot against each other.

For example, the number one preferred perk on Krait is Arrowhead Break for the first slot. When you mouse over each perk on this website, it will procure a tool tip that displays all sorts of helpful information about the perk in comparison to the others that go in that slot.

Here is a link to the Krait profile:

https://www.light.gg/db/items/2852052802/krait/

When you look at the perks section, there's a button you can tap/click that will say "Most Popular." Then you can get an idea of what most of the community prefers and use this as a basis for how you would like to personalize your load out to fit your play style. It is not meant to go by exactly but more or less act as a guide helping point anyone towards a more fine tuned successful load out that works for them personally.

Also, when you study this for a bit, it will also indicate which perks are preferred by the community more for various in-game instances. Basically PVE or PVP or both. I personally do not always go by this exactly, but what I can vouch for is, once I began utilizing this site to better my game, it in fact has helped better my game.

It's also not uncommon to carry around more than one version of the same weapon each with a set of perks specific to various encounters. An approach worth considering.

P.S. Overflow > Subsistence
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PhellAsleep Sep 23, 2022 @ 12:07pm 
Both Subsistance and Overllow can overlap with Veist Stinger. I prefer Overflow just because it doesn't rely on kills, which is harder to chain in higher tier content. Then l look for either Headstone, Vorpal, or Adagio.
R A Z E R Sep 23, 2022 @ 12:22pm 
Overflow
Amereth Sep 23, 2022 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by Tunnfisk:
Originally posted by ralphtobybob:
Overflow. NPCs on planets and in public events are made of glass. They're tougher in strikes and season pass activities. It's nice to have over a 100 rounds available when it's taking about 50 or more rounds to kill an NPC. Plus it increments stasis kill bounties.
Some secondary perks aren't useful unless you're using that weapon as primary. If you're confronted with a lot of NPCs, a machine gun with high damage is your best bet. Some of the 25 damage ones are pathetic.

I'll debate you on that point. My Krait has 62 bullets. Subsistence grants 17% on kill for auto rifles, rounded up. Meaning 11 bullets per kill. I need about 5 to nuke a red health. Infinite ammo. You with Overflow have to pick up special and heavy ammo for it to work, you still have to reload. Clearly Subsistence is the superior perk for trash clearing. Now add Headstone and AoE nuke everything.

Veist Stinger reload the weapon to full... Meaning your 62 bullet will get reloaded by veist stinger.

Now overflow will grant you a total of 120 bullets approximately since your krait doesn't have the max ammo it can get from other perks.

On top of that every time you grab an ammo on the ground you reload your Krait even if it isn't in your hand...

And i don't know about you, but i always have ammo on the ground that i can grab and it take some time to go trough 120 bullets.
IblisFlare Sep 23, 2022 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by Amereth:
Originally posted by Tunnfisk:

I'll debate you on that point. My Krait has 62 bullets. Subsistence grants 17% on kill for auto rifles, rounded up. Meaning 11 bullets per kill. I need about 5 to nuke a red health. Infinite ammo. You with Overflow have to pick up special and heavy ammo for it to work, you still have to reload. Clearly Subsistence is the superior perk for trash clearing. Now add Headstone and AoE nuke everything.

Veist Stinger reload the weapon to full... Meaning your 62 bullet will get reloaded by veist stinger.

Now overflow will grant you a total of 120 bullets approximately since your krait doesn't have the max ammo it can get from other perks.

On top of that every time you grab an ammo on the ground you reload your Krait even if it isn't in your hand...

And i don't know about you, but i always have ammo on the ground that i can grab and it take some time to go trough 120 bullets.
Subsistence would be better for just nonstop firing because you don't have to worry about where that last ammo drop was or if you are full on ammo for your other guns in order to pick up that ammo brick. I can just shoot at a crowd and mow them all down, and as I kill them, I get ammo back in the mag, with a chance for Veist stinger to fully reload the mag for me as I go if I'm being less than efficient with my ammo.
Amereth Sep 23, 2022 @ 6:40pm 
Originally posted by IblisFlare:
Originally posted by Amereth:

Veist Stinger reload the weapon to full... Meaning your 62 bullet will get reloaded by veist stinger.

Now overflow will grant you a total of 120 bullets approximately since your krait doesn't have the max ammo it can get from other perks.

On top of that every time you grab an ammo on the ground you reload your Krait even if it isn't in your hand...

And i don't know about you, but i always have ammo on the ground that i can grab and it take some time to go trough 120 bullets.
Subsistence would be better for just nonstop firing because you don't have to worry about where that last ammo drop was or if you are full on ammo for your other guns in order to pick up that ammo brick. I can just shoot at a crowd and mow them all down, and as I kill them, I get ammo back in the mag, with a chance for Veist stinger to fully reload the mag for me as I go if I'm being less than efficient with my ammo.

i rarely look for ammo, of course use what work best for you.

Personally having a main weapon with infinite ammo being able to unload 144 round on a boss and not ever reload because veist stinger proc most of the time just feel better.

So in the end, i think overflow is superior because of its versatility.
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