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VRAM usage should go up and it should also go down when not in use. Game is using more resources and not freeing them when not necessary. VRAM shouldn't be used at 100% unless the game demands it, Destiny 2 is more CPU intensive than GPU. Game shouldn't be using 2 or 3 times the amount of VRAM to run, that is nonsense.
You are telling me your game is using 7.5GB VRAM, that is not normal, i am fairly certain now, you have the same issue as me just opt out to ignore it or for some reason your system refuses to hard crash or freeze at that point (or you simply restart your game and ignore the issue). I start out at around 3GB VRAM usage at 1440p highest settings, my game starts stuttering a bit at around 70% memory usage, total VRAM is 11gb on my 1080ti. VRAM goes up and up, almost never drops, and it will eventually slow down everything to a freeze/hard crash.
As for the older specs, that goes with the speculation behind the issue itself. It seems to impact mostly specific hardware, i would assume the issue is likely to be present on GPUs with a specific amount of VRAM or higher. I haven't seen many reports of people having the same problem with GPUs with less than 6gb.
I already said, mine does go up and it does go down. Using 7.5GB of 8GB is not a problem, I don't restart and act like it's fine, over five hours non stop and no stuttering at all. Mine starts out low too, the key word is caching. I also use 1440p.
If your system has issues using 70%, that's not normal, why have that much and be unable to use it. You should be able to use nearly all VRAM/RAM with no issue, else why have it.
Once you go beyond 100% VRAM use, you will have issues, because you are now using system RAM and that is really slow and takes up bandwidth on the PCIe buss.
So not sure what you mean....
Unless your RAM is close to 100% it makes no difference any way
That's not how it goes. VRAM shouln't always be in use, which is the main issue here. It going up and then down back to normal, is what it should be doing. And it isn't doing that.
If you play at 6gb+ VRAM with the same quality settings as me, then it is not normal, no matter what you say. There are requirements specified for the game, and you can check how much VRAM the game will require to run on those specific settings. And like i said, using 3x the amount of VRAM it should be using is not normal, nor is it fine.
You literally confirmed having the problem yourself, the only thing that might differ is how your system reacts to the lack of memory. If you are playing on the same resolution and quality settings as me, you shouldn't be using more than 3.5-4GB to run the game, yet, you are using 6.5GB, up to 7.5GB like you stated. For me, it goes all the way up to around 10-10.5gb and freezes/crashes. You are using upwards to 2 times the amount of VRAM necessary to run the game.
The issue isn't the amount of memory being used, its the leak in the game causing instability. If the game wants more and more VRAM, of course my GPU will freak out at 70%+ usage. Around 70% usage i start seeing stutters in-game, it's still playable but when that happens it is time to restart the game, going from 70% to 90% is fast and can lead you to not being able to finish something you are doing due to bad performance. I've played other games recently that used upwards to 80% of my VRAM, without issues.
GPU memory shouldn't always be used at 100% unless the game requires it to, Destiny 2 does not require 8GB or 10GB, or 20GB of VRAM.
Already said, mine goes up and down,
You should really learn the difference in required and can use. Windows 10 requires 2GB RAM for 64 bit systems, mine is using 6.3 now. The requirement is the least you can get by with, not the most it can use.
I confirmed no such thing, I have no stutters or crashes. CACHING. do you know what it is?
The issue with a memory leak IS the amount of RAM, the less you have the sooner you run out and crash. And you point out that you have used more with no crash, using the RAM isn't the issue you're having. My system isn't crashing or stuttering. No, 70% won't freak your system out, it was designed with the VRAM to USE and is set up to use it, you only have issues if for some reason what you're doing requires more, then it dips into system memory. Computers, believe it or not, will actually use system RAM when you run out of VRAM, it's awful, you do get stutters but normally no crash. Corruption of the contents of the RAM can crash it though,
Required is not the same as can use. Mine is not being used at 100%
There is some fluctuations, up and down, but that usage is the usage you can expect the game to average.
Now after a while, the game will go to 2000 MB. Then to 3000. Then to 4000. Then to 5000. Then to 6000. Then to 7000. Then shortly before it hits 7900 MB and the game by that point is nearly an unplayable slideshow with stutter all the time, the game will alt+tab with the neat message "The computer is running out of memory", in this case it means the VRAM because my actual RAM is at 66-77% usage.
As I said. Download GPUZ and track the memory usage and you will see that it does NOT free up Gigabytes of memory, but instead, slowly, and steadily, takes more and more VRAM until it is so full that the Game crashes.
I set my graphics to lowest, yet it still manages to fill up the VRAM completely within 3 hours of gameplay.
Now imagine doing a first day raid with that. Where it can take many hours.
Would be absolutely devastating.
I used Resource monitor before, but I just used GPU-Z. I got on game at 9:00PM, I just shut the game down and it's 3:10AM. It got as high as 7731 and dropped to 61?? at the tower before I shut it down. I, am really tired now.
I can't pretend to know why you have stuttering and crashing and I don't, but I don't. The ONLY thing I noticed is my GPU temp is a bit higher than I like, dang blower card, I guess after some sleep I will clean it.
As to the first day RAID, you may have noticed that people managed it, not everyone is having the issue that you are having. I honestly wish I knew how to fix it, but I don't have a clue, don't even know what may be different between our systems.
You said "Using 7.5GB of 8GB is not a problem, I don't restart and act like it's fine, over five hours non stop and no stuttering at all. Mine starts out low too, the key word is caching". Which is indicative of you having the same problem, just on a smaller scale. Game SHOULD NOT be using more than 2x the amount of VRAM required to run at those quality settings. You being able to play without restarting does not mean you are safe from being affected sooner or later. Bungie has to add more content to the game, and when they do, it will get worst, mark my words. Why do you think the release of WQ made a huge impact and alot of people got memory leak issues all of a sudden? You think you are safe if they do not fix the problem? Keep dreaming.
The sooner they fix this situation, the better it is for everyone on PC playing this game.
Lol. Don't compare windows to a game. Windows has a crapton of things running in the background. Destiny has what? 2 processes running? Obviously that windows will hog more RAM than a game since it is the core software to run everything else, RAM makes the system more stable, hence the reason more ram = multi tasking and for lazy people like me to have 100 tabs open in the browser. Also your windows using 6.3GB is very likely based on the amount of things you have running in the background. Windows does not use 6.3GB on its own (unless you are messing with it). I am using around 7GB ATM, with 1.1GB being allocated towards firefox, i have more stuff in the background running like wallpaper engine, discord, steam, recording software, etc. All of this takes memory from your system.
Also windows 10 runs on 1GB RAM, though it is not recommended to do so. Windows 10 32bit uses around 1GB, bit more or a bit less, which is why 2GB is recommended, if you want to do anything with the system. 1GB ram on windows 10 would allow you to have 1 browser tab open or so.
You did confirm... the only difference is that your system is not stuttering and crashing. Basically you have the same problem as most other people, just lacking the consequences of the problem for now. Your 1080 should not be using near the full amount of VRAM to run Destiny 2. The samething applies to my 11GB on a 1080ti, or 20GB+ on a 3090 as many people reported.
I know what caching is. Have you ever heard of memory allocation? Program should free up memory that is not needed, not use more and more and eventually impact your entire system.
This has nothing to do with the amount of memory available. The game simply does not free memory when it should. Thus leading to system issues. Your GPU runs the game, it does other stuff than running the game. My GPU is currently using around 10-12% of its VRAM as i speak, with no games open. This is due to the background stuff running, i close firefox and it drops down to 8%. If Destiny 2 is aiming for 100% VRAM, what do you think will happen long term?
Again, this game should not be using more than 4GB VRAM (highballing) for your settings and my own, since we are playing on same resolution, i assume performance isn't much different from my system and yours. I have my settings on highest quality and the game states it doesn't need all 11GB but instead around 2.9GB. Going beyond what it states simply means the game is not functioning properly, which is why a memory leak is the most logical issue here, with proof to back it up as alot of people have reported memory usage going up, stutters/freeze/crash are the consequences of this ramping up in memory.
Sigh, you sound like a broken record at this point. Game SHOULD NOT be using more than what it states as requirement. Again, if the ingame settings state you need ~3GB to run the game, you shouldn't be needing much more than that to have a stable performance running the game.
The reality here is that this game sucks ass in terms of performance when it was ported to PC. There are a multitude of issues plaguing it since day one, memory leak has been reported to pop up since anniversary DLC but escalated with WQ. What do you think will happen? That this issue will stabilize all of a sudden and you can go enjoy your game as per usual? This issue on its own can damage system if not handled properly. For the casual PC users with no experience related to problems like this, they can run into serious problems if they mishandle the situation. I can literally tell you that my game refuses to change performance (FPS) based on my quality settings and resolution, since beyond light. This is something i managed to fix once but never again, with my previous hardware.
These issues do not impact everyone, does not imply it is hardware related. The conclusion i came to with my temporary fix, is that the game does not handle windows 10 properly, or vice versa. Because the fix i had in the past was based on messing around with window 10 configurations and Destiny 2 optimization. This issue is not as popular as the memory leak one, but there are more people out there with this problem. This can be bad if you are using older hardware, which was my case not long ago.
Every game is an up and down in VRAM and actual RAM usage.
As a funfact: the current Firefox STILL suffers from a memory leak when watching Youtube streams. After 2h of watching a stream, Firefox.exe uses nearly 99% of all RAM. This is what a memory leak is about.
Climbing ressource usage that never goes down until you kill 1 specific application.
D2 is currently doing exactly that.
Because you have a thick skull and can not or will not look into what I tell you.
Required is the minimum workable amount, not the most it will use. As you move about in the game, it loads new textures into the VRAM. When you leave that part it doesn't dump the textures because not having to load them makes game play smoother when you go back. The reason the amount used goes down and back up is it is dumping textures not used and loading others. I CAN compare Windows because standby RAM is about the same thing, you boot up and there is not much of it, over time it grows. The idea is to put the resources to use and only free up what is requested, as in there is a need to load something in, so dump the least used.
A memory leak would not be kind to me and say "oh man, we have 7.5GB, I think I'll stop here and not cause this wonderful person issues", it would go on to cause stuttering and even a game crash. So no, I don't have the issue you do.
Please note, I'm not saying you don't have an issue, I'm only saying I don't, I'm not saying the game is flawless, it's not, I'm saying I'm not experiencing the issues that you are.
At this point, I'm also saying, I'm done with this.