trials matchmaking is a lie

[Tukimors]

I'm no where near the best of the best, i'm average at pvp. decided to grind out the last 2k points on my trials rep solo and already knew before hand that it would be a long slog. But it's pure ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ matchmaking when after something like 10 0/5 stomps in a row , i get pitted against the same team twice , who get the lighthouse trip on the second stomp they do to us. Granted the players in my team are more or less on the same 15-20 loss count on their cards.
cards without losses should only play against cards without losses.

[Codex Enjoyer]

nah bungie decided flawless players deserve to destroy nonflawless players no matter what.
freelance is also bad for trials because.... well because ♥♥♥♥ you, get rekt by clans no matter what xD
id like to see a better matchmaking and a permanent freelance option, but it seems like bungo wants to please their elitepvpers.
im pretty bad at pvp, but i want tje trailseq, because of the looks and so im forced to die trough that ♥♥♥♥ against flawless clans.
i understand that this is the super duper pvp elite mode, but since they give armor and weapons for this mode exclusively they should at least give it a proper mm and a solo option.

[sophAur]

trials matchmaking is supposed to be unfair. Not that I like how it is, I hate it, but I can't imagine having 7 consecutive wins against someone on my tier.
It's flawed from the basic concept of the mode

[Токсик ЧСВ Мудак]

Originally posted by sophAur:

trials matchmaking is supposed to be unfair. Not that I like how it is, I hate it, but I can't imagine having 7 consecutive wins against someone on my tier.
It's flawed from the basic concept of the mode

You won't find player of your tier on another team xDD
And you'll find them at your team xD
That's the problem.

[Nordblut]

Originally posted by PriesT:

decided to grind out the last 2k points on my trials rep solo

The point that you even get this far, shows Bungie that it is a success.

And no, I am not defending Bungie, matchmaking in PvP is flawed in probably every way possible, not only for trials.

[Oku]

Trials of Osiris is meant to be PvP Endgame and it's expected that everybody is at a minimum level of mastery before they attempt to compete there, just like it's expected that people have a minimum level of mastery before they go in to GMs or Raids or Solo Dungeons. Sure, anybody can go in once they meet the bare prerequisites, but that doesn't mean they're going to find any success.

Trials is on a win-based card system, sort of a loose approximation of a tournament system. The goal is to win 7 matches in a row without a loss getting added to your card to "go flawless". As such, the game prioritizes you against other people with same number of wins on their cards , or at least attempting an average. And just like in a tournament bracket, there's no "Elo" rating. If the person you get paired against is leagues better than you, you will more than likely lose. The point is that you put the time and effort in to becoming good enough at the game that it doesn't matter who you get paired with, you have a significant chance of winning.

Trials used to be no-matchmaking, but Bungie wanted to open it up to more people, so now anybody can queue, and anybody get get Trials engrams, but not everybody has an equal chance of going Flawless, and for some people it will be completely impossible because they just aren't good enough to make it happen.

[6% winrate]

+++ :) labo are cool for the flawless but this week... its juste a s...T...

[Токсик ЧСВ Мудак]

Originally posted by Keth:

Trials is on a win-based card system, sort of a loose approximation of a tournament system. The goal is to win 7 matches in a row without a loss getting added to your card to "go flawless". As such, the game prioritizes you against other people with same number of wins on their cards , or at least attempting an average. And just like in a tournament bracket, there's no "Elo" rating. If the person you get paired against is leagues better than you, you will more than likely lose. The point is that you put the time and effort in to becoming good enough at the game that it doesn't matter who you get paired with, you have a significant chance of winning.

Lie.
I've played solo on previous week. And i've got 5-6 wins.
And then i've got 2 newbies in my party (low rank and triumphs).
And 3 fckng nolifers on enemy team.
And it's not the only one case. I've got smthng like 5 cases, that was the same.
The game is really fck me up all the time.

[Chariot]

Originally posted by iceink:

it's totally delusional and anyone claiming trails is skill-based is joking themselves probably because they main the mode to derive false sense of superiority and relevance to the world through it

if you join amateur basketball tournament and every once in a while the equivalent of the lakers or bulls is the team you have to play against it's not skill based, it's just 'be lucky enough not to get in a match with that team' based because the typical player is not some freak who spent 1000 hours sweating it out heavily in trials

also any claim that trials is a 'win-based card system' is totally uninformed, you play it long enough to realize that the first and last match is no more or less likely to be a blow out type of game at all, it's purely random whatever p2p connection the system decides to throw together at the time of day

Do you know how the enemy team keeps winning against you? Skill.

Destiny 2 and basketball are two completely different things.

It is a win-based card system, The first and last are similar because you'll likely be meeting up with clans starting a card, and the last is clans finishing a card, You have absolutely no idea what your talking about and I assume by this you do not play trials often.

[Токсик ЧСВ Мудак]

Originally posted by Solgaleo:

So many people shame bungie when It's on themselves for wanting to complain rather than trying to get better, A lot of people expect their wins to be handed to them on a free platter and wouldn't be here complaining about it if THEY were the ones who got carried/Free wins.

34 matches on osiris? Get better?
Are you serious?
I have enough experience in playing with randoms.
And I can clearly say, that PVP balance is broken or doesn't exist at all.
I've got flawless only when I've found const. party.
For you could understand, on previous week on saturday, i've played around 100 matches on solo mode.
6 times i've almost got flawless. But on 6-7 match i've got newbies in team, or some suspecious players on enemy team, that totaly wipe out all the team in a seconds.
And it's not the game, where you can easily kill all the enemy team alone by "pew pew".
If your teammates died, you are 1 vs 3. And you'll got pushed hard and killed.

[Токсик ЧСВ Мудак]

Originally posted by iceink:

the reason you don't understand how d2 and basketball can be compared is because you're bad at understanding how games work and have no skills at logic, they are not completely different because they're both games that involve competition and if you fail to understand how analogies can be made between them you have no idea how to understand basically any complex topic

Furrie on avatar, your opinion doesn't matter (Joke).
This compare is not correct at all.
You can be best basketball player in your village school, but if you want to compare it with D2, you must play on tournament VS real pro basketballist, "just for fun", over and over again.
Untill you'll drop the idea to play basketball.
Yeah, maybe you'll find some team, where you can win one round.
But in total, you'll be smashed, over and over.