No matchmaking for Vault of Glass raid ?

[Klaus Schwab]

It just keeps dropping me in solo,.. ?

[logith]

Publicado originalmente por Funkymonkey:

Publicado originalmente por logith:

It is possible. There are raid groups that are deaf, or just don't prefer to use a mic. But yea, matchmade raiding just wouldn't work

Lol, people not using a mic are the first ones to get booted. Then come players that join KWTD-Raids but only know how to addclear in each encounter. Then come people who dont do boss damage and wont listen to me when i tell them what gear to use to increase damage.
Since i do that my LFG Raids got a lot less stressfull for me...

And dont even think about flaming me and cry why I am so evil, i wrote "kwtd" raids.
If i do Raids that are not KWTD i am a complete different person because i dont expect everyone to do their positions perfect. :-)

Also one thing i dont get, why do people think KWTD means knowing the encounters? It means knowing every position and know how to adapt in situation where maby one teammate dies instead of just wiping. It knows how to properly use your gear to do damage to bosses or addclear...

Yea that's fair, if you literally put in mic required and KWTD and someone joins without knowing what to do or without mic it's on them they got kicked. If you don't want to get kicked, find lfgs or clans that allow no mic runs and don't need to KWTD

[Dr. Pootis]

Publicado originalmente por Curry:

Publicado originalmente por _galaxy:

Raids can not be matchmade like other usual activities because they require voice communication and a 6 man fireteam.

you can use destiny 2 companion app or discord "destiny 2 PC LFG" and try finding a group that will teach you how to do it.

You`re wrong we did the whole raid without mic, on atheon two players were using autohot key with text macro for oracles, like far left-far mid- far right
close left-close mid-close right.
we`ve killed atheon on 3 try

but all of us was familiar with raid mechanics.

ok and?

[logith]

Publicado originalmente por Kethriss:

Publicado originalmente por logith:

It is possible. There are raid groups that are deaf, or just don't prefer to use a mic. But yea, matchmade raiding just wouldn't work

The difference is that those people still have comms, they just go in with groups of people that know how to communicate with them and who they can communicate with. There’s a mutual understanding that somebody is deaf, but can still relay and receive information in other ways and people just need to be mindful of that.

That is a HELL of a lot different than matchmade randoms that flat out do not communicate in any way because that’s just what matchmade randoms do.

Very fair points. Still stand by and agree that matchmade raids wouldn't work

[Nestorfield]

no

[Mister Wiggles]

People wanting match making for raids need to go play 'The Corrupted' strike with blueberries. The most basic mechanics just slip by alot of people.

Raids are fine where they are, there are plenty of ways to find a group.

[Maxine]

There is no MM you need premade team go to https://discord.com/invite/d2pclfg and find someone to play with

[Diro]

Imagine not actually implementing a proper "social" hub/voice/invite system into a game like this.

Biggest flaw and downfall of the entire game.

[MOSLEY]

Publicado originalmente por Curry:

Publicado originalmente por _galaxy:

Raids can not be matchmade like other usual activities because they require voice communication and a 6 man fireteam.

you can use destiny 2 companion app or discord "destiny 2 PC LFG" and try finding a group that will teach you how to do it.

You`re wrong we did the whole raid without mic, on atheon two players were using autohot key with text macro for oracles, like far left-far mid- far right
close left-close mid-close right.
we`ve killed atheon on 3 try

but all of us was familiar with raid mechanics.

And you have about 25 red dots before the run that you were able to actually complete.

Given that you have 13 hours of play time in VoG (post-week 1) and 1 clear, I think we can safely draw the conclusion that this was not a good idea.

[Hex]

Publicado originalmente por Diro:

Imagine not actually implementing a proper "social" hub/voice/invite system into a game like this.

Biggest flaw and downfall of the entire game.

The fact that you need to add people on Steam is absolutely ridiculous.

[fwwm]

Publicado originalmente por Hex:

Publicado originalmente por Diro:

Imagine not actually implementing a proper "social" hub/voice/invite system into a game like this.

Biggest flaw and downfall of the entire game.

The fact that you need to add people on Steam is absolutely ridiculous.

you don't need to add people on Steam, Destiny has a /join /invite function that works perfectly fine

[Diro]

Publicado originalmente por hemddd:

Publicado originalmente por Hex:

The fact that you need to add people on Steam is absolutely ridiculous.

you don't need to add people on Steam, Destiny has a /join /invite function that works perfectly fine

Listen, dont lie now.

Honestly, DOES it really work well?

Really?

This game needs a proper full functioning "LFG/LFP/Raid invite" system - based off what PLAYERS put, that way MORE interaction would be involved, MORE people would randomly NEED each other more and make more use of one another, rather than running passed 50 players, with absolutely NO and i repeat NO interaction needed or done.

This game lack a proper communication/multiplayer/social experience - and as someone stated in another thread, this game is a glorified single player story made game, with the ability to see random players lol.

[fwwm]

Publicado originalmente por Diro:

Publicado originalmente por hemddd:

you don't need to add people on Steam, Destiny has a /join /invite function that works perfectly fine

Listen, dont lie now.

Honestly, DOES it really work well?

Really?

This game needs a proper full functioning "LFG/LFP/Raid invite" system - based off what PLAYERS put, that way MORE interaction would be involved, MORE people would randomly NEED each other more and make more use of one another, rather than running passed 50 players, with absolutely NO and i repeat NO interaction needed or done.

This game lack a proper communication/multiplayer/social experience - and as someone stated in another thread, this game is a glorified single player story made game, with the ability to see random players lol.

how does /join not work well? does exactly what it's intended to do, and my comment was in response to someone saying you need to add people to your friendlist on Steam to play with them, which is categorically false.

personally, I would rather use discord for finding players, that way I have more control over who I join, who I let join me and can make specific stipulations for certain instances. any in game system would no doubt be worse than what we can already do in discord servers

[Funkymonkey(GER)]

Publicado originalmente por hemddd:

Publicado originalmente por Diro:

Listen, dont lie now.

Honestly, DOES it really work well?

Really?

This game needs a proper full functioning "LFG/LFP/Raid invite" system - based off what PLAYERS put, that way MORE interaction would be involved, MORE people would randomly NEED each other more and make more use of one another, rather than running passed 50 players, with absolutely NO and i repeat NO interaction needed or done.

This game lack a proper communication/multiplayer/social experience - and as someone stated in another thread, this game is a glorified single player story made game, with the ability to see random players lol.

how does /join not work well? does exactly what it's intended to do, and my comment was in response to someone saying you need to add people to your friendlist on Steam to play with them, which is categorically false.

personally, I would rather use discord for finding players, that way I have more control over who I join, who I let join me and can make specific stipulations for certain instances. any in game system would no doubt be worse than what we can already do in discord servers

Just wait till bungie kills /join and /invite again. Never felt so annoyed in a long time...

[fwwm]

Publicado originalmente por Funkymonkey:

Publicado originalmente por hemddd:

how does /join not work well? does exactly what it's intended to do, and my comment was in response to someone saying you need to add people to your friendlist on Steam to play with them, which is categorically false.

personally, I would rather use discord for finding players, that way I have more control over who I join, who I let join me and can make specific stipulations for certain instances. any in game system would no doubt be worse than what we can already do in discord servers

Just wait till bungie kills /join and /invite again. Never felt so annoyed in a long time...

I mean there's a lot more annoying things in life other than something in a video game not working for a couple of weeks

[HeisenBurger]

Publicado originalmente por Kethriss:

Publicado originalmente por  Hezen Tee:

VOG is not complicated in any way.....unless you cant count up to 7 it is the easiest out of all of the raids maybe except EOW

If you think you can successfully and reliably coordinate the Atheon fight with 6 match made blueberries, 4 of whom don’t have mics, 2 of those are chat bugged, and 3 of the 6 have never done it before with 1 of the only 2 people with mics spamming Dubstep instead of talking then you are out of your mind.

Plates? Not hard.
Confluxes? Probably can do it.
Oracles? Not happening without communication.
Templar? Probably can do it.
Gorgons? Welcome to grief central.
Gatekeeper? Not happening.
Atheon? Also not happening.

Raids are designed to be completed by a coordinated and actively communicating group. It can be the easiest raid in existence but if the core encounters are designed to wipe you if you are not actively communicating with your fire team, matchmaking will never work, and if you think it will, you are demonstrably wrong.

you can do gatekeeper without comms, since its just a pattern of when minotaurs spawn. Or just use prometheus lens.