Some Bad News About the Sleeper Simulant Buff

[DabMan]

Bungie has recently announced on Reddit that Sleeper will not be buffed by the promised 15% anymore.


It's getting a 16.5% buff.
It's going to be even more busted than it was before.

[Pizzarugi]

What's special about Sleeper Simulant that a mere 1.5% increase would make it broken? Surely its ability to overpenetrate doesn't make it godly compared to a legendary linear?

[DabMan]

Originally posted by Pizzarugi:

What's special about Sleeper Simulant that a mere 1.5% increase would make it broken? Surely its ability to overpenetrate doesn't make it godly compared to a legendary?

Once upon a time, it was the best weapon in the game. It was supposed to have a 15% buff, but due to a bug it only goy a 3% buff. An extra 1.5% basically means the gun will hit harder than a truck when it becomes the top DPS LFR in the game.

[Pizzarugi]

Originally posted by DabMan:

Originally posted by Pizzarugi:

What's special about Sleeper Simulant that a mere 1.5% increase would make it broken? Surely its ability to overpenetrate doesn't make it godly compared to a legendary?

Once upon a time, it was the best weapon in the game. It was supposed to have a 15% buff, but due to a bug it only goy a 3% buff. An extra 1.5% basically means the gun will hit harder than a truck when it becomes the top DPS LFR in the game.

On the plus side, at least you have more exotic options than just running Anarchy for your PvE needs. :v

Though I doubt anything short of a nerf is gonna topple that thing.

[DabMan]

Originally posted by Pizzarugi:

Originally posted by DabMan:

Once upon a time, it was the best weapon in the game. It was supposed to have a 15% buff, but due to a bug it only goy a 3% buff. An extra 1.5% basically means the gun will hit harder than a truck when it becomes the top DPS LFR in the game.

On the plus side, at least you have more exotic options than just running Anarchy for your PvE needs. :v

Though I doubt anything short of a nerf is gonna topple that thing.

Oh yeah forgot to mention that a 16.5% buff means that it can outdamage most endgame DPS setups.

[Etraux]

Poor Sleeper Simulant has been nerfed so many times that I don't think that 16.5% increase will do much. Also, can you link a source for that? Cuz I couldn't find anything other than bugged buff in the beginning of the season.

[the.angelhunter]

Originally posted by Kabbs:

Poor Sleeper Simulant has been nerfed so many times that I don't think that 16.5% increase will do much. Also, can you link a source for that? Cuz I couldn't find anything other than bugged buff in the beginning of the season.

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/nvoduw/comment/h16mjbu?context=1000

[Kitsune]

I hate that the gun is literally the most sluggish gun in the game. Handles like a brick. By the time I scoped in with sleeper I already did 2 anarchy rotations lol

[Mister Wiggles]

16.5% wont be enough to make it a viable option for most end game stuff. Will be decent for most patrol zones or basic stuff though. Anarchy will still be the go-to exotic whenever you need something that packs a punch.

Anarchy nerf HAS to be coming, I hope not because its a raid exotic but Bungie will be Bungie.

[fwwm]

Originally posted by Mister__Wiggles:

16.5% wont be enough to make it a viable option for most end game stuff. Will be decent for most patrol zones or basic stuff though. Anarchy will still be the go-to exotic whenever you need something that packs a punch.

this buff will very much make it viable in master/GM content. it's current dps after the 3% increase it got this season is already better than every rocket launcher in the game, and they were very much meta last season in GM's. once it get's it's full buff, it will only be behind swords, 1K and Whisper for heavy dps, none of which are GM meta.

whether it's worth using over Anarchy is a different question and depends if it gets nerfed. This season Anarchy is obviously the way to go, especially with Breach and Clear, but Sleeper will definitely do work on Champions and Bosses

[lockwoodx]

Sleeper is a snoozer. You might a get hit once or twice in gambino but it shoots too slow to matter Vs anything and there aren't any mods to synergize with it.

Yay for nostalgia fans but big fat SHRUG overall.

[DabMan]

Originally posted by Kabbs:

Poor Sleeper Simulant has been nerfed so many times that I don't think that 16.5% increase will do much. Also, can you link a source for that? Cuz I couldn't find anything other than bugged buff in the beginning of the season.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/nvoduw/so_uh_about_that_postvog_sleeper_patch/h16mjbu/?context=1000

[Emurinus]

So what's the problem here? It's only getting a damage buff I don't see it being a pvp problem aside from being another one of many ways to melt primevals and I don't think it'll be overthrowing Anarchy any time soon in PvE.

[DabMan]

Originally posted by Emurinus:

So what's the problem here? It's only getting a damage buff I don't see it being a pvp problem aside from being another one of many ways to melt primevals and I don't think it'll be overthrowing Anarchy any time soon in PvE.

There is no problem, this is good news. Anarchy has competition since this makes Sleeper one of the hardest hitting Heavy Weapons in the game.

[lockwoodx]

Originally posted by DabMan:

this makes Sleeper one of the hardest hitting Heavy Weapons in the game.

Box breathing + Boss mod = sleeper's bonus damage so you have to ask yourself is your power weapon and exotic slot worth it for a super slow gun with a 3rnd mag?

[DabMan]

Originally posted by BRAND-ed:

Originally posted by DabMan:

this makes Sleeper one of the hardest hitting Heavy Weapons in the game.

Box breathing + Boss mod = sleeper's bonus damage so you have to ask yourself is your power weapon and exotic slot worth it for a super slow gun with a 3rnd mag?

You do realize the catalyst gives it a decently fast charge time? As in reduces it to 776?