I understand nothing from this story (Spoiler alert)

[Moon Helldiver]

I thought when they shot down your ghost you become ghostless, dead at worst (Osiris, Cayde). What was that? Crow have a magic touch ressurecting ghosts? How is Zavala Ghost still alive? Or if that was some sort of supression shot by th Cabal Assasin, well the hell you want to supress him? Just kill the ghost.

[Moon Helldiver]

I am still confused like a lot.
From my understanding from all being so far by everyone in this thread:

Some extremely rare devices/bulltes used for Plot Points may kill a Ghost.
But not even Zavala, cause he have a plot armor?

Or the Cabal just wanted to shot Zavala with a supressor from light, but the Assassin was that dumb to use it on the Ghost? If that's the case was not explained well.

Or Targe was dying, but THE CROW have magic hands turning broken things to fixed. I don't know.

I will just watch those cutscenes liek a cheap TV show and don't question motivations and logic.

[fwwm]

there was literally a quest step a few weeks ago as part the of Challengers Proving IV questline where you recover a 'light disrupter' from the Cabal in the EDZ and all this is literally explained.

[Moon Helldiver]

Origineel geplaatst door hemddd:

there was literally a quest step a few weeks ago as part the of Challengers Proving IV questline where you recover a 'light disrupter' from the Cabal in the EDZ and all this is literally explained.

I know, I did this quest.
So to recap this - pretty few things can kill a ghost. The Scorn Rifleman had this so was the Hive that killed Sagira.

Cabal does not have this, they cannot kill a ghost but they can supress a ghost. With this being said they don't have any other option to dissable Zavala. So, we assume that Crow worked on resolution to counter this technology and Ciatl stopped the assissination. I guess all that being recpaed make sense now.

[Emurinus]

Origineel geplaatst door Moon:

I thought when they shot down your ghost you become ghostless, dead at worst (Osiris, Cayde). What was that? Crow have a magic touch ressurecting ghosts? How is Zavala Ghost still alive? Or if that was some sort of supression shot by th Cabal Assasin, well the hell you want to supress him? Just kill the ghost.

Zavala's Ghost was never killed. It was suppressed by a light disruption device, similar to what the Red Legion used to cage the Traveler during the Red War; it was even explained earlier in the season. Destroying a Ghost seems to require, at minimum, heavy artillery or weaponry specifically designed for destroying ghosts (which may or may not be paracausal in nature to begin with), though the consistency has certainly been fuzzy overall. Paracausal methods will clearly be the most effective way to eliminate one though.

My personal belief is that ghosts require direct damage to their core to be destroyed by non-paracausal weaponry, while paracausal methods that drain a ghost's light should kill them regardless.

[Reaper]

Origineel geplaatst door Senwah:

Origineel geplaatst door FeaR_TH3_Reap3R:

Which is hilariously stupid writing. If he could shoot the ghost, why not just use a regular bullet? Zavala literally was in the same position Cayde was in and yet he gets to live because of bad writing. Also, the longer Destiny goes on, the more I believe the guardians are the dumbest people in the galaxy since they keep just standing around with their ghosts out for absolutely no reason.

"Hilariously stupid" Or you just being way too lazy to actually look stuff up? The only time ghosts have ever been actually killed is when something has been able to eat their light. Literally any time a ghost has died, it has only been from something that can actually completely take away the light. Just because you don't want to do any research doesn't mean something is bad.

Our ghost literally repaired it's self back to full the second we got to the shard in the red war. And if regular bullets did anything every guardian would be perma dead by now.

Except for Felwinter who simply shotgunned a ghost. Except for Petra, who just bombed 9 ghosts and their guardians to death. Except for Ada-1 who sniped multiple ghosts with a sniper. Except for Sagira who just flat out self-destructed. Even Glint knew that he could be destroyed by an explosion when Spider put a bomb on him. In other words, you're not just wrong, you're stupidly wrong.