stasis freeze ability is super anti-competitive

[デアンソ]

even if you dodge the first freeze, there is always a second freeze grenade or super as a roll catch. Bungie are you trying to intentionally break the already broken PVP even harder? I just want my powerful loot.

[Skurcey]

it exist, you can jump or dodge to avoid it, or even run, as you run faster

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από lolschrauber:

Try jumping

Well ofc jumping would evade the thing if it exists, i dont have the DLC and have not played crucible recently and dont remember if that grenade is a thing. Plus that guy is stating that there is no grenade that moves, implying that such a stasis grenade does not exist so i just wanna be sure.

[Tom]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Skurcey:

it exist, you can jump or dodge to avoid it, or even run, as you run faster

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Tom:

snip

okay thanks. Still sounds like it would be incredibly strong for pvp, assuming you can throw it at the enemy teams back so they dont realize its there before they get frozen.

[Skurcey]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Skurcey:

it exist, you can jump or dodge to avoid it, or even run, as you run faster

okay thanks. Still sounds like it would be incredibly strong for pvp, assuming you can throw it at the enemy teams back so they dont realize its there before they get frozen.

the thing really cool, is that if it hits a target it bounce with increased range, so you can freeze some more unaware enemies

[デアンソ]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bladee:

And what way exactly is pvp broke? Stasis didn't break anything. Weapons all seem to be balanced. As far as I am concerned you need to start playing smart, and learning from your mistakes. Learn how to counter stuff because just about everything has a counter to it.

my main concern is not on weapons, but on the abilities m8. like shoulder charge that can turn 90 degree on the point, really quick regeneration of any stasis grenade, the AOE of stasis grenade, the sucking you in part of the dome looking stasis grenade. It's all super imbalanced...

[Moyo]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bladee:

And what way exactly is pvp broke? Stasis didn't break anything. Weapons all seem to be balanced. As far as I am concerned you need to start playing smart, and learning from your mistakes. Learn how to counter stuff because just about everything has a counter to it.

my main concern is not on weapons, but on the abilities m8. like shoulder charge that can turn 90 degree on the point, really quick regeneration of any stasis grenade, the AOE of stasis grenade, the sucking you in part of the dome looking stasis grenade. It's all super imbalanced...

I don't think its imbalanced at all.. It's just that people know how to use those abilities very well.

[Moyo]

And it's a new subclass people will get use to fighting against. With time you'll know how to counter it, and with the grenades it's fairly easy to avoid them its just an annoyance.

[Yürei]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bladee:

And it's a new subclass people will get use to fighting against. With time you'll know how to counter it, and with the grenades it's fairly easy to avoid them its just an annoyance.

I feel like most people just get annoyed and come here to rant. Most people complaining probably don't even want to play pvp in the first place. If you take the time to play and adapt to stasis, you'll find that stasis isn't broken at all now that cold snap and warlock melee has been nerfed.

[MOSLEY]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Skurcey:

it exist, you can jump or dodge to avoid it, or even run, as you run faster

okay thanks. Still sounds like it would be incredibly strong for pvp, assuming you can throw it at the enemy teams back so they dont realize its there before they get frozen.

Definitely need to watch your radar more now that stasis is a thing. While a lot of people are unhappy about stasis, it's definitely going to force people to become better players.

[Moyo]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bladee:

And it's a new subclass people will get use to fighting against. With time you'll know how to counter it, and with the grenades it's fairly easy to avoid them its just an annoyance.

I feel like most people just get annoyed and come here to rant. Most people complaining probably don't even want to play pvp in the first place. If you take the time to play and adapt to stasis, you'll find that stasis isn't broken at all now that cold snap and warlock melee has been nerfed.

Exactly how I see it

[R A Z E R]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από PhellAsleep:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Anzaman:

Aye, Ashen Wake -Titan can oneshot with grenades that instantly refund themselves on kills.

Which one is that? I have a Titan and would love to know which ohk free refund grenade I've been missing out on.

Ashen wake exotic arms on titan. Use it with bottom tree sunbreaker and you can pretty much one shot people everyday by throwing a grenade near them (Doesn't even have to be a direct hit), the grenade instantly refreshes when you kill a enemy with your grenade. Make sure to spec into discipline with grenade mods incase it doesn't instantly refresh (Which is if you miss with a grenade).

It's absolutely busted in 6 vs 6, especially if you're a decent player.. Idk why more people weren't using that build, probably sleeping to much on thundercrutch or bottom tree striker..

[Zach]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από PhellAsleep:

My biggest annoyance with stasis currently, are the Hunter Duskfield grenades, major complaint being that they roam and track enemies. Most accessible comparison would be if the ground aoe from a Witherhoard moved around to make sure you couldn't get away.

Duskfield grenades create a Stasis bubble wherever the grenade lands causing rapid slow and eventually freezing. You're thinking of the Coldsnap grenade which is the Warlock's.

[js1zzle]

Everyone has the capability to use stasis.. assuming you have beyond light. Why don't you just use it too? Literally everyone beside Voovoo Zayla telling you to use the darkness.
DO IT

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από PhellAsleep:

My biggest annoyance with stasis currently, are the Hunter Duskfield grenades, major complaint being that they roam and track enemies. Most accessible comparison would be if the ground aoe from a Witherhoard moved around to make sure you couldn't get away.

Duskfield grenades create a Stasis bubble wherever the grenade lands causing rapid slow and eventually freezing. You're thinking of the Coldsnap grenade which is the Warlock's.

WRONG.
All classes get the same stasis grenades..

[Zach]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από jsizzle :

Everyone has the capability to use stasis.. assuming you have beyond light. Why don't you just use it too? Literally everyone beside Voovoo Zayla telling you to use the darkness.
DO IT:MCCSWORD:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από 0x7FFFFFFF:

Duskfield grenades create a Stasis bubble wherever the grenade lands causing rapid slow and eventually freezing. You're thinking of the Coldsnap grenade which is the Warlock's.

WRONG.
All classes get the same stasis grenades..

Take a look at the picture used for the grenades in the subclass screen. You'll easily notice a Warlock using the Coldsnap grenade ergo the Coldsnap grenade IS the Warlock grenade. Doesn't matter if every class has access to each others stuff the Coldsnap grenade is native to Warlock.
So your little post was not even necessary.

[Rex]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από DeAnzo:

my main concern is not on weapons, but on the abilities m8. like shoulder charge that can turn 90 degree on the point, really quick regeneration of any stasis grenade, the AOE of stasis grenade, the sucking you in part of the dome looking stasis grenade. It's all super imbalanced...

I don't think its imbalanced at all.. It's just that people know how to use those abilities very well.

IF all Arc / Solar / Void Grenade STUN / DISABLE (truly made u incapable of doing anything) u for 4.5 second do u think its balanced?

[possame]

i got very annoyed when that tornado thing got used precisly where we pop after death in gambit, couldnt avoid it when respawn do die twice, some players will abuse that i will be honest, it just happened once tho.