Is the DLC even worth buying?

[iTz.N7nja]

Can somebody please clarify if it's worth even getting the DLCs now that I hear they will be putting a whole lot of this older content in the vault when Beyond Light comes out. Don't want to fork out the cash for nothing.

Any guidance would be sweet.

[Skeleton]

Which DLC are you talking about?
Forsaken, Shadowkeep, or Beyond Light?

[Rogal Dorn]

All of the content from those dlc will stay in the game, at least when Beyond Light releases.

[Skeleton]

Forsaken has a good story and a lot of content, but all of its weapons will be obsolete due to sunsetting. The main exotic weapon quest from the base Forsaken campaign is being removed [Ace of Spades], and various content from that year's seasons are also being vaulted. Like Gambit, Reckoning, two raids, and Menagerie.

Shadowkeep is not worth buying. It alone added a bit to the story, but its weapons are also being sunset next season. Shadowkeep's main value was the seasonal content that came afterwards, particularly Season of Dawn - but those were timegated and you can't access that content anymore.

For Beyond Light, I haven't pre-ordered it. I'm waiting to see how things turn out, and deciding later.

[Kevfactor]

I think you get the expansions with bl

TBH i would just get gamepass till you decide if you want to keep that (you get like 100 games hehe) or just buy BL.

The moon is pretty good for quests but most people dont bother with it too much when compared to the choir list you have to do every week. there is the raid but well most people dont raid either. the main good thing imo is the dungeon which drops masterwork stuff for like 20-70 mins of their time. past that most people wouldnt bother with the moon that much.

[erdelf]

Originally posted by Skeleton:

but all of its weapons will be obsolete due to sunsetting.

Except of course that a whole bunch got reissued, especially all the raid stuff got prolonged.

Originally posted by Skeleton:

The main exotic weapon quest from the base Forsaken campaign is being removed [Ace of Spades]

straight lie.

Originally posted by Skeleton:

and various content from that year's seasons are also being vaulted. Like Gambit, Reckoning, two raids, and Menagerie.

Gambit isn't vaulted, and it was two raid lairs, not two raids.

Originally posted by Skeleton:

Shadowkeep [...] alone added a bit to the story, but its weapons are also being sunset next season. Shadowkeep's main value was the seasonal content that came afterwards, particularly Season of Dawn - but those were timegated and you can't access that content anymore.

Garden of Salvation, various exotics, Nightmare Hunts, Pit of Heresy.
All the raid and dungeon weapons are also again not sunset.

[Guars]

if you have patience both dlc are often on sale, if you don't really want to wait until then you should get forsaken, it has way more content than shadowkeep and more exotics, most of the content from forsaken won't be vaulted with the exception being a few steps from exotic quests that required you to do stuff on certain destinations, but you should have more than enough time to complete them

[Skeleton]

Originally posted by erdelf:

Except of course that a whole bunch got reissued,

Reissuing old weapons doesn't change that the originals weapons you'd acquire from playing Forsaken itself are being sunset. A Duke Mk.44 you pick up in the Tangled Shore will always be capped at 1060, even if you can acquire a different one from a different source in the future with a higher cap. You do understand how reissuing works, right?

Originally posted by erdelf:

straight lie.

Ace of Spades' quest "Ace in the Hole" concludes on Titan, where you get Cayde's final recordings. Titan is being vaulted. Therefore the quest is gone. Did you forget that part?

Originally posted by erdelf:

Gambit isn't vaulted, and it was two raid lairs, not two raids.

Gambit is being merged with Gambit Prime, with no word on which one's mechanics will stick. Either way, instead of two separate modes, there will only be one.

Only Spire of Stars and Eater of Worlds have ever been referred to as "raid lairs". Scourge of the Past and Crown of Sorrows are raids.

Originally posted by erdelf:

Nightmare Hunts, Pit of Heresy.

Nightmare Hunt gear [Dreambane set, Moon weapons] are capped at 1060.
Pit of Heresy doesn't have unique equipment. It drops Moon weapons, Dreambane armour, and the three weapons from Altar of Sorrows - which are all being sunset.

Anything else?

[R A Z E R]

If you play a lot and want to advance further into other stuff that the vanilla game + warmind/osiris doesn't offer you, than get the DLC.. Start with forsaken, after that shadowkeep and after that beyond light.. But it's up to yourself which one you want.. Personally, always start with forsaken since that's the ebst DLC pack so far.

[Mister Wiggles]

As of now, there as been no indication that the current paid dlc's are being sunset.

As for the future? It's likely and if they do then so be it. Remember you bought the license to play that content, not own it so bungie can do this is they please.

The game is basically going to be under an engine upgrade and content polish over the next 12-18 months, needs to happen.

[R A Z E R]

Just a extra note tho, once beyond light comes out you will have to reinstall the entire game again. It was in the latest TWAB.. But after downloading the game again, the size of the game is going to be 30% smaller.

[Spencer]

if you like the games stories then yes...

[erdelf]

Originally posted by Skeleton:

Originally posted by erdelf:

straight lie.

Ace of Spades' quest "Ace in the Hole" concludes on Titan, where you get Cayde's final recordings. Titan is being vaulted. Therefore the quest is gone. Did you forget that part?

The quest is removed, not the gun. We already have examples of exotics that lost their quest and are still accessible via exotic cypher. There is nothing to suggest ace would be otherwise.

Originally posted by Skeleton:

Originally posted by erdelf:

Gambit isn't vaulted, and it was two raid lairs, not two raids.

Gambit is being merged with Gambit Prime, with no word on which one's mechanics will stick. Either way, instead of two separate modes, there will only be one.

No word? They explained the new gambit in detail including why they changed certain stuff and from where they started.

Originally posted by Skeleton:

Only Spire of Stars and Eater of Worlds have ever been referred to as "raid lairs". Scourge of the Past and Crown of Sorrows are raids.

They are lairs by size. They are not full-blown raids like Levi, Last Wish or Garden.

Originally posted by Skeleton:

Originally posted by erdelf:

Nightmare Hunts

Nightmare Hunt gear [Dreambane set, Moon weapons] are capped at 1060.

and? Doesn't change that they are an activity that is locked behind the dlc

[Meza]

cheating staying no matter you buy or not, so i would nt

[Skeleton]

Originally posted by erdelf:

The quest is removed

The main exotic weapon quest from the base Forsaken campaign is being removed [Ace of Spades]

Did you overlook something in the post you said was a "straight lie"?
Here's a hint: I put it in bold for you this time.

Originally posted by erdelf:

They explained the new gambit in detail including why they changed certain stuff and from where they started.

Oh hey, I missed that TWAB.
But guess what.
The new Gambit is based almost entirely on Gambit Prime. The fact that it's based on Prime with no features from regular Gambit means that

Originally posted by erdelf:

Gambit isn't vaulted,

Isn't really honest, is it? Because someone is looking for a 3-round system with the original scoring and invasion mote rates next season, that mode is gone.

Originally posted by erdelf:

They are lairs by size. They are not full-blown raids like Levi, Last Wish or Garden.

The raid lairs are the ones that are called raid lairs. Your personal "size" criteria is completely arbitrary. Because Scourge and Crown have been called raids by Bungie themselves from as far back as 2018[www.bungie.net] and as recently as July this year[www.bungie.net].

Perhaps what makes a raid a raid is having a unique exotic tied to it? Because the two lairs, coincidentally, are the only ones that don't have an exotic. But you can think on that and fix your definitions later.

Not even sure why you're trying to differentiate them, as though that makes any kind of point.

Originally posted by Skeleton:

and? Doesn't change that they are an activity that is locked behind the dlc

And? The post you're trying to correct says that gear from those activities is being made obsolete via sunsetting. Which is true. They're all capped at 1060.

Unless the angle you were getting at is that Pit of Heresy and Nightmare Hunts, with their outdated gear, are the main content of Y3, and more valuable than the entirety of the following seasons [Dawn's and Arrivals' unique and now unavailable content]. The reverse of what I originally said. Which is it?

You seem to be agreeing with me on most of what I say, but phrasing your comments like they're some kind of contradiction or correction. I suggest rereading the first post very carefully, and very slowly.