One Shot Wonders

[Tophiate]

Hey guys, looking for some clarity here. I have about 400 hours in game and I would like to think I am decent as far as PvP and reflexes and reaction time (for an old guy). When I go into the Crucible and ANY PvP arena I get one shot over and over and over and over. I occasionally get a kill of opportunity but I am always at the end of the list concerning stats. I am sure that a lot of this has to do with skill, people are simply better and more practiced...but wow. Something seems amiss. Are there aim bots in this game or background programs that people cheat with? I would love to explore all these other options in the game but they simply are not enjoyable when I am is fodder. I know the easy answer is 'get better' and I agree but, once again...something doesn't seem right. Anyone have an explanation or theory as to how some people seem to have limitless shields and weapons that kill in one hit?

[Zoomii]

Originally posted by Tophiate:

Hey guys, looking for some clarity here. I have about 400 hours in game and I would like to think I am decent as far as PvP and reflexes and reaction time (for an old guy). When I go into the Crucible and ANY PvP arena I get one shot over and over and over and over. I occasionally get a kill of opportunity but I am always at the end of the list concerning stats. I am sure that a lot of this has to do with skill, people are simply better and more practiced...but wow. Something seems amiss. Are there aim bots in this game or background programs that people cheat with? I would love to explore all these other options in the game but they simply are not enjoyable when I am is fodder. I know the easy answer is 'get better' and I agree but, once again...something doesn't seem right. Anyone have an explanation or theory as to how some people seem to have limitless shields and weapons that kill in one hit?

There are cheats, but it's extremely likely you are going against really good players. It's all about your build, special weapons (shotguns and snipers) can one shot and as far as the shields go, there are plenty of builds that give you a ton of health and shield regeneration.

[Skurcey]

3 basic tips,
be aware of the radar
try to always have a cover near you
aim with right click on the head

[PENUS]

Originally posted by Skurcey:

3 basic tips,
be aware of the radar
try to always have a cover near you
aim with right click on the head

and then what? i tried holding over their heads but it didnt shoot any bullets...

[Adventurer]

Hey Tophiate, I will try to answer your questions as far as my knowledge goes.

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There are many weapons that can one-shot a guardian.
A lot of them are available without heavy ammo.
Examples of these are some of the snipers and shotguns as mentioned.
Not all of them are one-shotting though.

Then there are many weapon buffs that make them more deadly if the right conditions are met,
some of the nicest handcannons qualify here. But again, they do not necessarily one-shot thereafter but they get very strong and can kill a wounded guardian fast.

Moreover, the game has armor perks available that take action in special scenarios.
A certain part of armor grants an overshield that is very durable.
Another increases the recovery by a decent amount.
In Gambit, there is a special armor set that grants the intruder great power.

Other than that, great power can be the influence of the actual power level, too.
The power level is a relevant influence in activities such as Iron Banner or the Trials.
It does make a great difference there as you might have noticed in PvE already.

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Regarding matchmaking, I think that Destiny does not do very well.
The ELO of the players that get matched covers a very wide span. Then there are many fixed teams that fight teams of single-players. Other than that, placement for ELO does take long s.t. you will run the starting ELO for a while until registered properly. The time it takes and the accuracy depend a lot on the PvP activity you choose as well.

You can add me if you would like to get more information on this issue.

[:bestgamerchina#1最好的中國]

Bungo should make Shotguns and Snipers back to Y1 when they used Heavy ammo. So many problems solved instantly.

[FAArscape]

Originally posted by Cancerous Khajit:

Bungo should make Shotguns and Snipers back to Y1 when they used Heavy ammo. So many problems solved instantly.

At least for PvP.
And don't say thet they there can't be separate rules for weapons in PvP vs PvE... I mean, looks at the 'Heir Aparent' LMG...the shield behaves way different in PvP compared to PvE..

[Adventurer]

Originally posted by Cancerous Khajit:

Bungo should make Shotguns and Snipers back to Y1 when they used Heavy ammo. So many problems solved instantly.

Y1 gameplay was so very different. I liked it - but I can see many players complain about the TTK.

[Adventurer]

Originally posted by ∞:

Answer is simple! There is a lot of cheaters: massive is aimboting and wallhacking; rare ones with inf.super, heavy ammo, speed hack, fly and teleporting! As I'm finishing my bounties, just leaving that trash and not touching until next reset!

What kind of statistics do you have regarding this issue?
I would be interested.

From what I can tell there are not "a lot of cheaters".

[Tom]

What kinds of weapons are they using? All special weapons can one hit no problem, but if they are killing you in one shot with say a handcannon then they're either running a specialized build built for that OR they are cheating.

Keep in mind that primary ammo weapons in this game all have TTKs(time to kill) equal to or less than one second, think 3 headshots with a 150 handcannon at ~.7 of a second. so if you are older or otherwise have slowed reaction speeds then it can certainly feel like you are getting oneshot.

As for enemies feeling like they have limitless shields, thats either lag meaning your damage will show up a second or two late. Or you're missing your shots/ shooting outside of your weapons effective range resulting in less damage.

Now i don't know how you play when you're in a match so i can't really give much advice, but here's some general tips you may or may not be aware of. Don't stand still if you don't have to, when you're in a duel then you want to be strafing jumping and ducking as much as you can to avoid getting hit.

Use your movement for aiming as much as you use your mouse, depending on your aim sensitivity it may be easier to line up a headshot by moving a little to the left or right than it is to risk overshooting with your mouse. This is primarily useful in sniping and dueling, the former for times when you only need a little bit of movement to get on target at long range. And the latter as it plays into dodging hits and can help compensate your aim.

Watch this video and figure out what your preferred play style is and focus on that, also if you got the time look up videos from the best pvpers and study how they play, there is also a Crucible school series by Mtashed that gives a lot of good information that is still mostly viable for D2, and i think there is another more recent series for D2 but i forget who is making it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7nxjWafCZA

Edit. Work on staying alive first and foremost, get into bad situations and try to get out of them. This will help you learn when its good to push and when something is suicide. Gun skill comes with time and practice but staying alive helps you get that practice. Hope this helps!

[Skurcey]

also, maybe he was in iron baneer

[Avidius Aurelius]

There are some cheats actually built into the game, like bullet magnetism for snipers. So even when you miss, the game still registers as a hit. I often watch video's of "decent" pvp youtubers who headshot kill players on the other side of the map. When you pause their video frame by frame, you will see that their aiming reticle is not even placed on the enemy head when they shoot. But the game still counts it as a kill. I only found out about this after half a year of playing, and it seems very unbalanced.

In most fps games, snipers are skill-based long-range weapons. But in destiny you can just run around a corner and use the built-in aimbot/bullet magnetism to get instant headshots.

[:bestgamerchina#1最好的中國]

Originally posted by Adventurer:

Originally posted by Cancerous Khajit:

Bungo should make Shotguns and Snipers back to Y1 when they used Heavy ammo. So many problems solved instantly.

Y1 gameplay was so very different. I liked it - but I can see many players complain about the TTK.

I want them to onyly take care of shotties and snipers, make them use heavy ammo agin. It would fix the problem of so many shotgun/sniper apes with tiggerbots/aimbots/skill/whatever.
Supers, shotguns and snipers are main factors of why so many newbies despise PvP.

[不機嫌Lucy]

Originally posted by OfficerPenus:

Originally posted by Skurcey:

3 basic tips,
be aware of the radar
try to always have a cover near you
aim with right click on the head

and then what? i tried holding over their heads but it didnt shoot any bullets...

LOL XD

[IblisFlare]

Originally posted by Avidius Aurelius:

There are some cheats actually built into the game, like bullet magnetism for snipers. So even when you miss, the game still registers as a hit. I often watch video's of "decent" pvp youtubers who headshot kill players on the other side of the map. When you pause their video frame by frame, you will see that their aiming reticle is not even placed on the enemy head when they shoot. But the game still counts it as a kill. I only found out about this after half a year of playing, and it seems very unbalanced.

In most fps games, snipers are skill-based long-range weapons. But in destiny you can just run around a corner and use the built-in aimbot/bullet magnetism to get instant headshots.

Bullet magnetism is a thing for every weapon in the game. Aim assist is a hidden stat that every weapon has, and bullet magnetism is one of the things it affects.

[Avidius Aurelius]

Originally posted by IblisFlare:

Originally posted by Avidius Aurelius:

There are some cheats actually built into the game, like bullet magnetism for snipers. So even when you miss, the game still registers as a hit. I often watch video's of "decent" pvp youtubers who headshot kill players on the other side of the map. When you pause their video frame by frame, you will see that their aiming reticle is not even placed on the enemy head when they shoot. But the game still counts it as a kill. I only found out about this after half a year of playing, and it seems very unbalanced.

In most fps games, snipers are skill-based long-range weapons. But in destiny you can just run around a corner and use the built-in aimbot/bullet magnetism to get instant headshots.

Bullet magnetism is a thing for every weapon in the game. Aim assist is a hidden stat that every weapon has, and bullet magnetism is one of the things it affects.

Yeah but it shouldnt exist here. Maybe on consoles its ok, but this is a pc game.