Raid Matchmaking Please! Hundreds of Thousands not Raiding.

[Durge8One]

Please add matchmaking for raids. How much time and effort is wasted on creating raid content most of your players never see? Assuming the completion rate for the Leviathan (18.4%) and Last Wish (10.8%) are for PC players only and taking the maximum concurrent player base (226,000) we can estimate how many of the concurrent players haven't completed these raids. 184,000 have not completed the Leviathan raid and 201,592 have not completed the Last Wish raid. THAT'S JUST CONCURRENT PC PLAYERS! Now do the math for total player count (only accounting for players with characters raid eligible, i.e. light/power level) across all platforms and that number balloons to possibly millions. It's a shame really that the experience is gated from us by something as simple as matchmaking. Please stop dictating how we should play your game. Premade groups and clans will still be there for those who want that. The rest of us just want a simple/convenient way to see the same content.

[The One They Call Dante]

It’s incredibly simple to make an LFG post on Bungie.net. You get to set how many people you need for your fireteam, and you can even schedule it.

Once your fireteam is locked in, your teammates see your SteamID. They just type it in and join in. It couldn’t be easier.

Matchmaking for something that is mechanics heavy like raids require communication and coordination, something you may not get out of matchmaking because someone is choosing not to use their mic. (Yes, mics are required.)

[Durge8One]

I should probably just suck it up and join a clan. I still feel like matchmaking for events outside of raids should be implemented. Everyone should know how to run the nightfall because you can run them as strikes. Same with the Nightmare Hunts and Vex Offensives.

[BEEP!]

It's already been reported by the developers that they would not add matchmaking for raids and playing with random people for certain raids will be nigh impossible to a certain extent some of the raids require you to do things with absolute precision or the entire team will wipe and you need people to communicate to do these certain objectives perfectly otherwise the whole team was simply be wiped go watch some YouTube videos of raids and you'll find that everyone or almost everyone is talking to each other and communicating with each other during the raid

[BEEP!]

Ursprungligen skrivet av No:

clearly you are new to this kind of content and i will reply very bluntly

This will never happen.

Exactly as this guy says it just won't happen it's that simple

[Erros]

There is already a form of matchmaking available. However, It is not popular. Instead I recommend joining the Destiny 2 PC LFG Discord for all your LFG needs including finding groups to raid with.

[MOSLEY]

This is an absolutely awful idea and will never happen.

No one wants to queue up for a raid and get matched with some combination of people who:

a) don't know what a raid is
b) don't know how long the raid will take and have to leave after 20 minutes
c) literally just booted up the game for the first time and have a full set of green gear

The lack of matchmaking acts as a barrier to entry that requires people to gather some information about what they're getting themselves into before jumping in to a raid. Just join the Destiny 2 PC LFG Discord server. It takes 5 minutes to find a group to raid with.

[Hungry Zealot]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Jango_23:

I should probably just suck it up and join a clan. I still feel like matchmaking for events outside of raids should be implemented. Everyone should know how to run the nightfall because you can run them as strikes. Same with the Nightmare Hunts and Vex Offensives.

Please understand that nothing I say comes from a place of elitism. I've only raided a few times in Destiny 2, and random matchmaking for these raids would be a very bad idea.

I agree that everything but raids should have matchmaking. The harder nightfalls and heroic menagerie don't require communication and coordination like raids do, you just kill everything and maybe do some simple mechanics that don't require other people. I feel like the reckoning requires way more coordination than either of those, but we can matchmake for the reckoning and not them for some reason.

In the case of raids though, a fireteam not on voice chat has about a 0% chance of success. Everyone can even know the encounters inside and out, but without voice chat for immediate call-outs, you will fail. With the LFG site, you can set up your group, and have control over who is in it (I.E. can kick someone who refuses to get on voice chat or who is just trolling, etc). You don't have control over that in matchmaking and just have to take who you get.

I fully understand what it's like to be shy, not want to talk to strangers online, or being afraid of making them mad by not knowing what to do, but you have to just jump in at some point. You don't really need a clan, although having a dedicated group of players is always nice. Just using the LFG site and joining raid groups or creating your own is very easy and doesn't take long at all.

I recommend watching some guides on youtube so you're at least somewhat familiar with the encounters and can learn your role faster when you actually get in the raid. Raiding is really fun when everyone comes together, but having matchmaking with randoms is a really bad idea. There are already tons of posts complaining about how mechanically intensive the final GoS boss is. If matchmaking was a thing, we wouldn't see those posts anymore because a matchmade group would likely never make it that far to even have that problem.

[Verios44]

Imagines trying to do Levithan without communication or a pre made group

Bath house, they may figure it out after a decade.

The forest room, its not gonna happen. Communication is literally required between the orb holders and the guys on the platforms

The gauntlet, will be impossible without corrdination. If one team member screws up, everyone wipes

The boss fight, forget it. The amount of quick action mechanics is insane.

And thats just the main rooms, not even counting the under belly maze.

Thats why raid matchmaking will never happen, communication is not just required, its the pin that holds it all together.

[DetectiveYellNow]

If only Cayde-7 was still alive. He would shoot you for not raiding.

[IONSTORM]

Welcome to DISCORD.

This is where PC Players have been making groups for Destiny 2 since it's release, because Bungie has promised over and over again to add it but hasn't.

Atleast you don't have to mess about swapping from EU to NA and visa versa!

[Durge8One]

Ursprungligen skrivet av No:

I'll put a bit of reasoning in why you cannot

1. you can get paired with mute randoms who know nothing (which will always be the case if it were to happen)
2. cp's (checkpoints) would be messed up. e.g. you are at the last encounter and others are in the middle or the start of the raid, where would you start in this case?

I am pretty sure in the 10+ years WOW has been out, it has never had raid MM (don't @ me though since i don't really play it but most likely it doesn't).
When you are doing hard content you will want a team that knows what they are doing, not some low light level random who is fresh out with blue loadouts and not a single decent weapon to their name. It would cause a divide in the playerbase between those who do not know how this kind of content works and those who do.

WoW does have raid matchmaking. With like 25 players no less.

[IONSTORM]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Jango_23:

Ursprungligen skrivet av No:

I'll put a bit of reasoning in why you cannot

1. you can get paired with mute randoms who know nothing (which will always be the case if it were to happen)
2. cp's (checkpoints) would be messed up. e.g. you are at the last encounter and others are in the middle or the start of the raid, where would you start in this case?

I am pretty sure in the 10+ years WOW has been out, it has never had raid MM (don't @ me though since i don't really play it but most likely it doesn't).
When you are doing hard content you will want a team that knows what they are doing, not some low light level random who is fresh out with blue loadouts and not a single decent weapon to their name. It would cause a divide in the playerbase between those who do not know how this kind of content works and those who do.

WoW does have raid matchmaking. With like 25 players no less.

Destiny 2 raids are not as mindless and braindead as LFR i'm afraid, I mean nowhere near.

They actually require teamwork and co-ordination. If you've ever done LFR and a Destiny 2 raid you'd notice the absolute massive difference from them all. There is much less room for error in a Destiny 2 raid, there's also no healer to save you from when you're playing like garbage.

[Wasted Potential]

there's a Destiny LFG discord with hundreds if not thousands of users. You wont wait over 2m to find a raid group

[IONSTORM]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Moonlight Sonata~:

there's a Destiny LFG discord with hundreds if not thousands of users. You wont wait over 2m to find a raid group

But you'll prolly wipe for hours because most noobs don't have a clue wtf a Sherpa is.

[IONSTORM]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mr Eos:

An external 3rd party app....

Try again ... need to be an IN GAME option.

As everyones said, welcome to Year 1 complaints.