Crucible is a Horrible Experience

[BallisticCrow]

For starters I would not complain about this mode's existence and just completely ignore it but there's plenty of exotic weapon quests that require grinding on it.

I am a FPS veteran on PC, played the Quakes, the Counter Strikes, the Battlefields and many other shooters, I mentioned this cause I know a lot of ppl here are going to jump on me like I'm a new player and I don't know what I am talking about.

The weapon balance "IN THIS MODE" is god awful, clearly it was not designed with PC in mind but consoles and their inaccurate controllers, yesterday I got the Ace of Spades and I'm just shooting laser beams with it with very little to no recoil, holy cow. Let's not forget that there's plenty of others but this one of the most popular ones.

From what I have experienced so far; for you to shred in the crucible all you have to do is be a TITAN: SUNBREAKER and play with a hand-full of HAND CANNONS and SHOTGUNS, that is if you are a decent player and know what you're doing of course.

The netcode -___- I really don't know if this mode uses a different iteration of what Bungie uses for PVE or Gambit because it sure doesn't look like it. Every day I get disconnected 4/10* while either loading a map or half-way through the match (WHICH IS REALLY ANNOYING) that doesn't happen while playing PVE or Gambit.
Speaking of loading the map, this game might have the longest queue/load screen to start a match ever, why do you need to load planets instead of just having a splash screen and go straight to the match? not only that but there's also a short intro of the map/players to make even longer. When it comes to PVE being in orbit before traveling to other planets doesn't bother me but in PVP it does.

One of my biggest complain is getting matched with players from Asia, I live on the east coast and there's no need for this game to put me against ppl across the world. According to steamcharts.com this game has a decent population so I really don't get it. Speaking of Asian players I will also say that I have encountered a few hackers over the past few days but I won't say where they from to not offend anybody.

Overall I really dislike the crucible, you can't really experiment with the vast amount of weapons this game offers when you know only 2 category dominate the field. Again I would ignore it and keep playing the rest of the game but every time I have quest that requires me to do something in it with an specific weapon I get annoyed.

[Shikikan]

It's not for everyone but I get what you're saying.

[majzerofive]

You mention that you're FPS veteran and then you proceed listing the games, yet it doesn't prove that you are anything close to a good player. Not to mention those games are much more different. FPS? yes. Everything else is no. They are exactly "fair". If you're in a bad position, you'd most likely die if enemy comes out at that moment and checks you. If you are in a bad position in destiny, nothing will matter, you still can easily kill your opponent. Aim assist, magnetic melee etc. The games are different and you're trying to prove that this one is bad because it is different from what you're used to. You see the flaw here?
Crucible is obviously bad, but not for the reasons you listed here. Matching with asians won't affect your games much. Yes, you'd die a few seconds after you killed an enemy, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't kill you otherwise. If you die, that exactly means he'd kill you if he wasn't lagging. But instead, exactly because he's lagging you killed him as well. They did it to shorten the queue time. They did it only for normal modes (at least I haven't seen any lagger besides cheaters in Survival), which will give you something even if you lose.
Weapon domination you described is hilarious. exactly 2 categories, revs and shotguns I suppose. Shotguns are the worst weapons in my opinion. Any open map, or any shotgun from your opponent and you're dead. Unless you're titan and wasting slot for invincibility while sliding. And even then you are dead if your opponent manages not to let you come close.
Bows, snipes, shotguns, revolvers, sidearms, rifles, pulse rifles, grenade launchers, fusion rifles (swords) - these all can dominate in pvp, easily. If you can't see it, that exactly proves you are bad at any FPS game that doesn't give you the equality CS gives.

[TheVoidSpirit]

Destiny PvP is arcady. If you don't take it serious and just play however you want, you'll have much more fun. Yes, you need to do PvP for some Quests, but guess what, you could just ignore the Quests. But if you want the gear from the Quests, you have to do what you have to do.

[Shotz]

crucible is bad. way too much cheese and minimal actual gunfights.
i die to supers,melee abilities, nades and other bs most of the time

[Stardama69]

Thank the devs for removing matchmaking... (sarcasm obviously)

[Kalvix]

Yep the balancing is awful, theres a few meta builds you need to use and if you don't you are already at a huge disadvantage. But that said ye removing all matchmaking didn't help, it's not a hell-hole you should only play if you have a meta build and have played crucible mainly since launch, or are one of the many hackers.

[majzerofive]

Originally posted by Welchkin:

crucible is bad. way too much cheese and minimal actual gunfights.
i die to supers,melee abilities, nades and other bs most of the time

learn positioning. supers are bad sure, but learning what counters what helps. Nades are easy evadable, unless you have less than 50% hp. Even then just run and don't turn around.

[BallisticCrow]

Originally posted by mind the cat:

Bows, snipes, shotguns, revolvers, sidearms, rifles, pulse rifles, grenade launchers, fusion rifles (swords) - these all can dominate in pvp, easily. If you can't see it, that exactly proves you are bad at any FPS game that doesn't give you the equality CS gives.

Every weapon kills... Good analogy there bud. Who said I was doing bad in the game? Yeah sure I struggled a bit at the beginning but all I had to do was look around and see the builds other players were rocking and voilá the game became a walk in the park. Aces of Spade for long range and Imperial Decree for tight spots... Not rocket science. as I mentioned earlier if you are a good player on any other FPS games you should dominate with these weapons and if you want to add more power to it, then use the Titan with Sunbreaker subclass to add the sweet cherry on top of an already delicious cake.

So according to you, complaining about the technical problems this mode has is not an option, the game kicks me out half-way through the match and I'm suppose to have a smile on my face, if the match is laggy as hell; me as a player I am suppose to adapt and compensate for the existing delay the game has FACE-PALM EMOJI.

Here's a funny story, yesterday morning me and a team-mate were capturing a flag meanwhile a player from the enemy team walks by without a care in the world, we start chasing the guy while shooting at him and nothing was happening, he didn't take any damage, after a few meters the guy looks back and kills both us... I was like DA FAK lol. The game did not registry any of the our bullets but his. That is totally acceptable...


Crucible reminds of MW2, a cluster FAK every match but if you use the right perks you good go to. Remember those? One Man Army, Marathon, Commando etc etc. Same thing happens here, and speaking of MW2 the game feels like is P2P and not on Dedicated Severs, getting disconnected so many times per day is not normal, clearly something is not right cause I have many friends from different countries and they all experience the same problems I have.

[Dani3009]

There should be 100% CBMM atm

How do you know they are from Asia?
People can use steam names of their choice

[BallisticCrow]

Originally posted by Dani3009:

There should be 100% CBMM atm

How do you know they are from Asia?
People can use steam names of their choice

Players against Korean and Chinese names several times a day is no coincident, and not to mention the extreme lag while playing against them. Btw I have also been matched for Strikes with them, one even spoke to us in Korean... So yeah that gives a hint...

[majzerofive]

Originally posted by BallisticCrow:

Every weapon kills... Good analogy there bud. Who said I was doing bad in the game? Yeah sure I struggled a bit at the beginning but all I had to do was look around and see the builds other players were rocking and voilá the game became a walk in the park. Aces of Spade for long range and Imperial Decree for tight spots... Not rocket science. as I mentioned earlier if you are a good player on any other FPS games you should dominate with these weapons and if you want to add more power to it, then use the Titan with Sunbreaker subclass to add the sweet cherry on top of an already delicious cake.

So according to you, complaining about the technical problems this mode has is not an option, the game kicks me out half-way through the match and I'm suppose to have a smile on my face, if the match is laggy as hell; me as a player I am suppose to adapt and compensate for the existing delay the game has FACE-PALM EMOJI.

Here's a funny story, yesterday morning me and a team-mate were capturing a flag meanwhile a player from the enemy team walks by without a care in the world, we start chasing the guy while shooting at him and nothing was happening, he didn't take any damage, after a few meters the guy looks back and kills both us... I was like DA FAK lol. The game did not registry any of the our bullets but his. That is totally acceptable...


Crucible reminds of MW2, a cluster FAK every match but if you use the right perks you good go to. Remember those? One Man Army, Marathon, Commando etc etc. Same thing happens here, and speaking of MW2 the game feels like is P2P and not on Dedicated Severs, getting disconnected so many times per day is not normal, clearly something is not right cause I have many friends from different countries and they all experience the same problems I have.

Less words please, they don't make you right. You've lost so much time just to prove yourself wrong in the first paragraph, don't do that. Time is money, remember.

[ItsHord]

Crucible is a god awful PvP system. I have never witnessed such a horribly balanced bit of garbage in my life.

- Learn positions
What ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ positions? What part of a position is getting insta snipped by someone across the map with a hand cannon. What position is getting killed by someone flying in the air as a warlock throwing fire swords that insta kills you the second you look at it?. Dude just admit the game is horrible balanced for people that dont sit & do crucible every second of this games lifespan.

PvP is unbalanced as ♥♥♥♥ & will remain unbalanced until Bungo removes super abilities & just makes so we cant hop into a game with personal weapons.

♥♥♥♥♥ a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mess but the bungo bingo fanbois wont admit it cause they got the devs c0ck so far down their throat all they are seeing is a balanced game lmfao.

[Mondays]

tbh it was quite fun before sbmm was gone and now it is just an utter ♥♥♥♥ show

[BallisticCrow]

Originally posted by mind the cat:

Originally posted by BallisticCrow:

Every weapon kills... Good analogy there bud. Who said I was doing bad in the game? Yeah sure I struggled a bit at the beginning but all I had to do was look around and see the builds other players were rocking and voilá the game became a walk in the park. Aces of Spade for long range and Imperial Decree for tight spots... Not rocket science. as I mentioned earlier if you are a good player on any other FPS games you should dominate with these weapons and if you want to add more power to it, then use the Titan with Sunbreaker subclass to add the sweet cherry on top of an already delicious cake.

So according to you, complaining about the technical problems this mode has is not an option, the game kicks me out half-way through the match and I'm suppose to have a smile on my face, if the match is laggy as hell; me as a player I am suppose to adapt and compensate for the existing delay the game has FACE-PALM EMOJI.

Here's a funny story, yesterday morning me and a team-mate were capturing a flag meanwhile a player from the enemy team walks by without a care in the world, we start chasing the guy while shooting at him and nothing was happening, he didn't take any damage, after a few meters the guy looks back and kills both us... I was like DA FAK lol. The game did not registry any of the our bullets but his. That is totally acceptable...


Crucible reminds of MW2, a cluster FAK every match but if you use the right perks you good go to. Remember those? One Man Army, Marathon, Commando etc etc. Same thing happens here, and speaking of MW2 the game feels like is P2P and not on Dedicated Severs, getting disconnected so many times per day is not normal, clearly something is not right cause I have many friends from different countries and they all experience the same problems I have.

Less words please, they don't make you right. You've lost so much time just to prove yourself wrong in the first paragraph, don't do that. Time is money, remember.

WOW that small sentence right there proves that you just like to take advantage regarding if it kills the fun element of the game or not. Just because I figured what works in the game and I am doing "GOOD" does not mean the game is balanced, what a selfish way of thinking, oh if I'm doing horrible the game SUCKS if I'm doing good the game is AWESOME... That's now how I see things pal but clear that's how you do.

Let me give you an example; I dunno if you play CSGO but back in December 2015 Valve released the R8 revolver which was broken as fak, basically a walking cannon if you will. Good players would eliminate the entire enemy team without even reloading the damn gun, yeah sure they were doing extremely good but does that mean it was fun??? Hell no... That is my point. Is not about me doing good or bad in a match, loosing has never been a problem for me, I come from a classic Arena FPS background where worrying about KDs were not a thing.

My complains is just me speaking my mind regarding the balance of the game not ranting about everyone being a cheater just because I can't win a match.

[Stardama69]

Originally posted by Hords:

PvP is unbalanced as ♥♥♥♥ & will remain unbalanced until Bungo removes super abilities & just makes so we cant hop into a game with personal weapons.

Well that's part of the game's appeal though. Take your hard-earned weapons and smah others with it. Wouldn't be such of an issue if matchmaking was active and functioning, TBH