Black Talon vs. Truth

[Les Grossman]

This is beyond ridiculous... Sword that utterly and completely outclasses freaking Rocket Launcher.

To avoid confusion, I mostly speak about PVE aspect, but even in PVP I've seen quite a lot of people running Talon as well. This is legit god tier sword right now.

I won't lie, I like this weapon, but I always preferred Truth for PVE, and now there's pretty much no reason to... Let's see why:
- 62 ammo vs. 6
- No reload, weapon always instantly ready
- Faster rate of fire
- Better tracking
- You can't smack people in the face with Truth (why tho?...)
- Are you ♥♥♥♥ing kidding me?...

I mean it does less damage per projectile, but considering how fast you can spam it, and non-stop, added damage is definitely tramples Truth in numbers.

Are these guys on drugs...? How can you make a sword that takes a role of a dedicated rocket launcher with tracking and appears 100 times better at it?...

[Mr. Figgles]

Wow. Talk about comparing apples to oranges.

[Peter The Hymen Eater]

Truth is designed entirely to be used in pvp, That's why it's pve damage is so lackluster.

[Uncle M]

black talon was always a monster nobody talked about. truth is just not to my liking.
also it burns ammo quite fast, specially if you're spamming heavy attack.

[Emurinus]

Truth's sole purpose is to be crutched in Gambit.

[Super-XIX]

Rocket Launchers are not good for PvE. This isn't a specific exotic vs. specific exotic thing.

[Simbah]

The comparison you did here can be done to any and every other power weapon in the game. That's just how power weapon works.
And Black Talon is an exotic, so of course it's normal to have something unique specific to the sword (energy wave)

While you can spam it, the wave damage and explosion radius is significantly reduced when you fire it while not having full sword energy, as a way to balance it of course

Escrito originalmente por Sundr:

- Better tracking

I'll take a wild guess you have never been shot from across the map with Truth in Gambit

[Les Grossman]

Escrito originalmente por Superjew-XIX:

Rocket Launchers are not good for PvE. This isn't a specific exotic vs. specific exotic thing.

I can't really agree with this. I don't mean hard PVE, but even in higher level of Strikes or solo Nightfalls, stuff like curated Bad Omens with Tracking, Cluster and relatively quick reload can be quite useful. Also Pyroclastic Flow is pretty good as well, if we talk Legendaries, when you other Exo slot is occupied.

Escrito originalmente por TyRadz:

The comparison you did here can be done to any and every other power weapon in the game. That's just how power weapon works.
And Black Talon is an exotic, so of course it's normal to have something unique specific to the sword (energy wave)

While you can spam it, the wave damage and explosion radius is significantly reduced when you fire it while not having full sword energy, as a way to balance it of course

Escrito originalmente por Sundr:

- Better tracking

I'll take a wild guess you have never been shot from across the map with Truth in Gambit

Well, Worldline Zero doesn't outclass any other weapon types. I mean, I'm okay with Black Talon having ranged projectiles, but player shouldn't be able to spam it. There should have been a charge, which depletes after 2 projectiles in succession, same way Zero works, at the moment. You have to wait for charge to trigger another Tesseract. That would make a lot more sense IMO.

And regarding another point, you guess wrong, because I've been using Truth in Gambit for quite some time myself, so I can easily avoid 90% of shots from it. People who die to Truth simply have never used it, have zero situational awareness or just new. I personally switched to Xeno, which really has absolutely no counterplay at all, which is by far not the case with Truth.

[Rørschach]

Still prefer Talon then Truth.

[Skurcey]

wardcliff is really cool in pvp
also the other that fire a void ball that explode when you release the mouse

[Snow Miser]

Xeno is the big wetard gun...