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Les Grossman May 13, 2020 @ 1:02pm
21% Delirium
Did they somehow nerfed it or something? Consistently through many matches, it doesn't perform as well as it used to for me. It used to be absolute beast, right now you need almost whole mag to kill 1 target...

Any other decent options for Power slot (legendary only)? I used to run Hammerhead, but ROF is just way too slow for Crucible play rhythm. I also have decently rolled Play of The Game, but it's hit or miss weapon, sometimes you can get like 5 kills with one clip, other times - 0.
Last edited by Les Grossman; May 13, 2020 @ 1:02pm
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Shikikan May 13, 2020 @ 1:11pm 
21% hasn't been touched I don't think. However, a really good Heavy I've personally used has been Black Talon, Xenophage and Edgewise.
Les Grossman May 13, 2020 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by Commander M16A1:
21% hasn't been touched I don't think. However, a really good Heavy I've personally used has been Black Talon, Xenophage and Edgewise.
Did you just say that Edgewise is better than 21% Delirium? Everyone I know says otherwise, and my personal testing a while ago confirmed it. Weapon didn't feel like it was suited for PVP at all...
Shikikan May 13, 2020 @ 1:32pm 
Originally posted by Sundr:
Originally posted by Commander M16A1:
21% hasn't been touched I don't think. However, a really good Heavy I've personally used has been Black Talon, Xenophage and Edgewise.
Did you just say that Edgewise is better than 21% Delirium? Everyone I know says otherwise, and my personal testing a while ago confirmed it. Weapon didn't feel like it was suited for PVP at all...
Personally I like the recoil pattern, to each their own however.
Les Grossman May 13, 2020 @ 1:38pm 
As I said, I can't put exotic in Power, otherwise that would be no brainer, options are numerous.
Uncle M May 13, 2020 @ 3:02pm 
you can try avalanche, aka 21% made in china
then you'll absolutely love hammerhead
Les Grossman May 13, 2020 @ 3:21pm 
lol
PhellAsleep May 13, 2020 @ 3:26pm 
My guess is server issues probably affecting your hit reg.
UmaMusume Enjoyer May 14, 2020 @ 12:07am 
Stryker's.
booty stew May 14, 2020 @ 12:20am 
Originally posted by Sundr:
Did they somehow nerfed it or something? Consistently through many matches, it doesn't perform as well as it used to for me. It used to be absolute beast, right now you need almost whole mag to kill 1 target...

Any other decent options for Power slot (legendary only)? I used to run Hammerhead, but ROF is just way too slow for Crucible play rhythm. I also have decently rolled Play of The Game, but it's hit or miss weapon, sometimes you can get like 5 kills with one clip, other times - 0.
idk maybe u just got worse
Emil May 14, 2020 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by Sundr:
Did they somehow nerfed it or something? Consistently through many matches, it doesn't perform as well as it used to for me. It used to be absolute beast, right now you need almost whole mag to kill 1 target...

Any other decent options for Power slot (legendary only)? I used to run Hammerhead, but ROF is just way too slow for Crucible play rhythm. I also have decently rolled Play of The Game, but it's hit or miss weapon, sometimes you can get like 5 kills with one clip, other times - 0.
Hammerhead is the best LMG for PvP tho. Just get TTT and HIR on it and it shreds
Les Grossman May 14, 2020 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Pullaaaaaa:
Originally posted by Sundr:
Did they somehow nerfed it or something? Consistently through many matches, it doesn't perform as well as it used to for me. It used to be absolute beast, right now you need almost whole mag to kill 1 target...

Any other decent options for Power slot (legendary only)? I used to run Hammerhead, but ROF is just way too slow for Crucible play rhythm. I also have decently rolled Play of The Game, but it's hit or miss weapon, sometimes you can get like 5 kills with one clip, other times - 0.
Hammerhead is the best LMG for PvP tho. Just get TTT and HIR on it and it shreds
Yeah, but 450 RPM vs. 900? Range isn't much bigger on Hammer as well...

Originally posted by Sylok The Defiled:
Originally posted by Sundr:
Did they somehow nerfed it or something? Consistently through many matches, it doesn't perform as well as it used to for me. It used to be absolute beast, right now you need almost whole mag to kill 1 target...

Any other decent options for Power slot (legendary only)? I used to run Hammerhead, but ROF is just way too slow for Crucible play rhythm. I also have decently rolled Play of The Game, but it's hit or miss weapon, sometimes you can get like 5 kills with one clip, other times - 0.
idk maybe u just got worse
Yeah, I get the feeling that more i play Crucible, the worse I actually get. Also with every match played, my IQ gets lower and lower... It's terrifying tbh.
Last edited by Les Grossman; May 14, 2020 @ 12:25pm
Super-XIX May 14, 2020 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by Sundr:
Did they somehow nerfed it or something? Consistently through many matches, it doesn't perform as well as it used to for me. It used to be absolute beast, right now you need almost whole mag to kill 1 target...

Any other decent options for Power slot (legendary only)? I used to run Hammerhead, but ROF is just way too slow for Crucible play rhythm. I also have decently rolled Play of The Game, but it's hit or miss weapon, sometimes you can get like 5 kills with one clip, other times - 0.

Are you low light in Iron Banner?

Also, Hammerhead is objectively better vs other guardians. The extra range and damage is a big deal.
Les Grossman May 14, 2020 @ 3:55pm 
According to stats, impact of Delirium is 25 and Hammerhead is 41, Deliriums' RPM is twice higher, which theoretically means that it will do a lot more damage in the same window than Hammer can. Ranges in Crucible are rarely so high than to consider it.

Hammer feels good that you can flinch the living crap out of anyone, in theory. In practice, everyone run unflinch mods, so it's impossible to get any use out of it, and you should focus on pure DPS. Such low RPM I was losing even against higher RPM Autos. With delirium it wasn't the case, reliable 2-3 kills with one clip. Not anymore for some weird reason. Definitely feels like weapon got some ninja tuning.
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Date Posted: May 13, 2020 @ 1:02pm
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