Best Auto Rifle - Suros, Hard Light, Tommy, Monte

[Protomario]

I would like to truly discern the best auto's for PVP and PVE and I have it down to two.

Tommy is very much last for both PVE and PVP for now due to the self damaging perk and lack of easily gottencatalyst, perhaps later in the season it'll rank higher in PVE but even then you still hurt yourself greatly and there are better options.

I enjoy the Monte Carlo but it has a unique ability which makes it less for shooting only and more for utility, being given back melee after a kill is great for Titan throwing hammer or throwing lightning as a Warlock/knife with hunter. However, due to that I feel it lacks in being a perfect autorifle itself for both events and lacks in doing damage in PVE.

I would put this down to Hardlight or Suros -

Suros is all about the spin up, being able to pre-fire makes it a monster in PVE, and its catalyst makes it more stable, ooo baby!

But Hardlight's ricochette rounds doing double damage, and it being reworked, AND being changable for the element type.

I dunno, is Hardlight the best for PVP and Suros for PVE?

[ModernSamurai]

My go-to legendary auto rifle for PvE is Breakneck and for PvP Ghost Primus. For exotics, Cerberus+1 and Hard Light. I use them in every mode. Although few people use Cerberus+1 in PvE, but i enjoy having a "2 in 1" weapon so you can have both an auto rifle and a budget shotgun in kinetic slot and a sniper in the energy slot. It's pretty underrated i would say.

Never liked Suros. But i began to like Hard Light after they fixed the camera shaking.

[Protomario]

Originally posted by Modern Samurai:

My go-to legendary auto rifle for PvE is Breakneck and for PvP Ghost Primus. For exotics, Cerberus+1 and Hard Light. I use them in every mode. Although few people use Cerberus+1 in PvE, but i enjoy having a "2 in 1" weapon so you can have both an auto rifle and a budget shotgun in kinetic slot and a sniper in the energy slot. It's pretty underrated i would say.

Never liked Suros. But i began to like Hard Light after they fixed the camera shaking.

All you need is a gun with the right perks.

[ACEsino]

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

Originally posted by Protomario:

All you need is a gun with the right perks.

Until it gets retired.

Then you farm a reskin whit the same perks

[Squingus]

Hardlight is actually extremely good, not only does it have NO fall off damage it has bullets that bounce off of walls and do extra damage when bounced.

[Avidius Aurelius]

Since very recently it seems like everyone uses Nooblight... sorry I mean Hardlight in PvP. All they do is spray around corners and hope they luck out and hit something.

They should reduce the number of bounces that bullets from this gun can make, its kind of rediculous xd

[Sterling]

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

Originally posted by Avidius Aurelius:

Since very recently it seems like everyone uses Nooblight... sorry I mean Hardlight in PvP. All they do is spray around corners and hope they luck out and hit something.

They should reduce the number of bounces that bullets from this gun can make, its kind of rediculous xd

The meta shifted to autos because they gradually nerfed everything else.

... say that again.

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by Sterling:

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

The meta shifted to autos because they gradually nerfed everything else.

... say that again.

That's kind of what I was thinking; the adjustment in this last patch to auto rifles was because they were kind of trash in PvP...and I'm saying that as someone whose main two weapons are a Masterworked Steelfeather and a Masterworked Ringing Nail.

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Dosbilliam, 200% Ultra-Bitter:

Originally posted by Sterling:

... say that again.

That's kind of what I was thinking; the adjustment in this last patch to auto rifles was because they were kind of trash in PvP...and I'm saying that as someone whose main two weapons are a Masterworked Steelfeather and a Masterworked Ringing Nail. :D:

Breakneck here, God bless the mediocrity of super average weapons.

[Sterling]

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

Originally posted by Sterling:

... say that again.

Not all of this happened at once but....
They added drop-off to pluses and hand cannon ranges. Sidearms don't have any bullet magnetism in pvp. Popular exotics gutted. Snipers, shotguns, machine guns, and fusion rifles were nerfed. Linear fusions and bows are once in a while 'nice shot bro' but that's about it.

Scouts and autos buffed so they get used more often.

Using scouts outside momentum be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVxUUotm1P4

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by ;2826511552731306867:

Originally posted by Dosbilliam, 200% Ultra-Bitter:

That's kind of what I was thinking; the adjustment in this last patch to auto rifles was because they were kind of trash in PvP...and I'm saying that as someone whose main two weapons are a Masterworked Steelfeather and a Masterworked Ringing Nail.

Breakneck here, God bless the mediocrity of super average weapons.

That's the fun thing about not being the kind of person that cares a lot about endgame stuff: don't need to worry about getting the top 1% quality weapons just to play the game.

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Dosbilliam, 200% Ultra-Bitter:

Originally posted by ;2826511552731306867:

Breakneck here, God bless the mediocrity of super average weapons.

That's the fun thing about not being the kind of person that cares a lot about endgame stuff: don't need to worry about getting the top 1% quality weapons just to play the game. :D: :D:

I actually have this thing for collecting all pinnacle weapons, since they're great and allow for mods (mostly because they allow mods and already are masterworked, unlike other non-randomized weapons). Of course, then I found out where the pinnacle pulse rifle actually was[www.forbes.com] and instantly got depressed. Such a massive disparity between the current pinnacle quests and the older ones, that it's anything but encouraging.

[Protomario]

Yet again though, what is the best auto?

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by Protomario:

Yet again though, what is the best auto?

Hardlight and suros are both very good. Lots of other auto-rifles are also viable.

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Protomario:

Yet again though, what is the best auto?

Breakneck ruins the ♥♥♥♥ out of everything that requires you to kill a lot in a short amount of time, which is quite precisely what PvE is in Gambit. It takes the cake for me, since I don't think using autos to kill anything that isn't trash or that will die soon enough with Breakneck's stacked buffs is a solid idea. Plus, there's a best auto for everything, and the best auto for Gambit is the one you get in Gambit.

[ModernSamurai]

Breakneck for PvE. Ghost Primus for PvP.