Why has comp still not been fixed?

[SandTag]

if people leave, it isnt your fault for losing when at a massive disadvantage, teamshotting, life loss, heck a 1v3 the enemy team can just camp out and you cant touch them.

So why after having this new comp format for so long, are players still being punished for idiots quitting during the match?

[Lusus Symphonia]

Początkowo opublikowane przez MOSLEY:

PVP ain't perfect, but it's fun.

It's 2020, do you think gamers these days care about "fun"? We care about efficiency, completing tasks and getting achievements/loot, we don't care if we have to play games we don't like, if we complain enough the developers will change the FPS into and RPG for us.

[Protomario]

Początkowo opublikowane przez SandTag:

if people leave, it isnt your fault for losing when at a massive disadvantage, teamshotting, life loss, heck a 1v3 the enemy team can just camp out and you cant touch them.

So why after having this new comp format for so long, are players still being punished for idiots quitting during the match?

Not that it isn't broken, but I have beaten 1 v 3 and 2 v 3 many times.

That isn't a good excuse.

[zOldBulldog]

Początkowo opublikowane przez UnPescadorRascuache:

no just that, theres the guy that lose a round and instantly start to suicide, like yo...if you dont want to play just hide and dont waste OUR lifes, i lost a match today for a chinese guy that every round just because we lost the first one started to suicide.
Bungie never punish this players, i read a guy that griefed 2 years in a row and still can play with no problems so... just stick to the match and if you won well, you can tell you win a 1 vs 3, i pulled 2 times this and a 2v3, is posible if you focus but is not fair.

That is because of mixing quests and bad matchmaking.

I have been guilty of that myself when grinding for specific weapon kills in comp, because SBMM mixes players with 1000-2000 Glory with those with 4000-5000 and the only way to bring SBMM to its senses is to give it a string of about 3 lost matches before it started putting me withand against players of my own skill and I could get my quest's kills.

Yes, it messes with you, but it is a direct consequence of putting good and bad players in the same comp match. Good players want real games, players doing a quest... don't care about wins and will intentionally cause a loss in order to get their quest done faster. Players want their guns and will do whatever they need to do to get them with minimum pain.

The only fix is to separate those two groups of players. Either by a comp SBMM that will only put people of the same skill in a match (no players with 2x or 3x the skill), or changing quests to no longer be Glory based.

[SandTag]

Początkowo opublikowane przez zOldBulldog:

Początkowo opublikowane przez UnPescadorRascuache:

no just that, theres the guy that lose a round and instantly start to suicide, like yo...if you dont want to play just hide and dont waste OUR lifes, i lost a match today for a chinese guy that every round just because we lost the first one started to suicide.
Bungie never punish this players, i read a guy that griefed 2 years in a row and still can play with no problems so... just stick to the match and if you won well, you can tell you win a 1 vs 3, i pulled 2 times this and a 2v3, is posible if you focus but is not fair.

That is because of mixing quests and bad matchmaking.

I have been guilty of that myself when grinding for specific weapon kills in comp, because SBMM mixes players with 1000-2000 Glory with those with 4000-5000 and the only way to bring SBMM to its senses is to give it a string of about 3 lost matches before it started putting me withand against players of my own skill and I could get my quest's kills.

Yes, it messes with you, but it is a direct consequence of putting good and bad players in the same comp match. Good players want real games, players doing a quest... don't care about wins and will intentionally cause a loss in order to get their quest done faster. Players want their guns and will do whatever they need to do to get them with minimum pain.

The only fix is to separate those two groups of players. Either by a comp SBMM that will only put people of the same skill in a match (no players with 2x or 3x the skill), or changing quests to no longer be Glory based.

I dont want to be at 5k, up against 3 unbrokens with two allies on their second or third ever comp match, i mean the system just isnt working.

At 5k i should never get a teammate thats at 1100 with a toaster and has no idea how to use said thing.

[MineroDeLaRinconada]

Początkowo opublikowane przez SandTag:

Początkowo opublikowane przez zOldBulldog:

That is because of mixing quests and bad matchmaking.

I have been guilty of that myself when grinding for specific weapon kills in comp, because SBMM mixes players with 1000-2000 Glory with those with 4000-5000 and the only way to bring SBMM to its senses is to give it a string of about 3 lost matches before it started putting me withand against players of my own skill and I could get my quest's kills.

Yes, it messes with you, but it is a direct consequence of putting good and bad players in the same comp match. Good players want real games, players doing a quest... don't care about wins and will intentionally cause a loss in order to get their quest done faster. Players want their guns and will do whatever they need to do to get them with minimum pain.

The only fix is to separate those two groups of players. Either by a comp SBMM that will only put people of the same skill in a match (no players with 2x or 3x the skill), or changing quests to no longer be Glory based.

I dont want to be at 5k, up against 3 unbrokens with two allies on their second or third ever comp match, i mean the system just isnt working.

At 5k i should never get a teammate thats at 1100 with a toaster and has no idea how to use said thing.

literally pass me on my last match, you can see it on destiny elo tracker and put my name, 2 new player that didnt know how to move on lanes and constantly getting headshots, lose 3 rounds in a row, then i manage to tell them to stick with me and we won but watch my kills man! i carry the game and im in 3600 and i was matching a 4600 player, tell me if this SBMM works because this match tells other thing.

[SandTag]

Początkowo opublikowane przez UnPescadorRascuache:

Początkowo opublikowane przez SandTag:

I dont want to be at 5k, up against 3 unbrokens with two allies on their second or third ever comp match, i mean the system just isnt working.

At 5k i should never get a teammate thats at 1100 with a toaster and has no idea how to use said thing.

literally pass me on my last match, you can see it on destiny elo tracker and put my name, 2 new player that didnt know how to move on lanes and constantly getting headshots, lose 3 rounds in a row, then i manage to tell them to stick with me and we won but watch my kills man! i carry the game and im in 3600 and i was matching a 4600 player, tell me if this SBMM works because this match tells other thing.

SBMM has never worked and i dont expect it to.

Plus, win a few matches in a row and the game will randomly decide its time to throw you into some boosh match with ppl double your elo/rank

[SandTag]

Początkowo opublikowane przez SandTag:

Początkowo opublikowane przez UnPescadorRascuache:

literally pass me on my last match, you can see it on destiny elo tracker and put my name, 2 new player that didnt know how to move on lanes and constantly getting headshots, lose 3 rounds in a row, then i manage to tell them to stick with me and we won but watch my kills man! i carry the game and im in 3600 and i was matching a 4600 player, tell me if this SBMM works because this match tells other thing.

SBMM has never worked and i dont expect it to.

Plus, win a few matches in a row and the game will randomly decide its time to throw you into some boosh match with ppl double your elo/rank (skill based!... no)

[SE[7]EN]

man pvp is garbage
its unplayable in comp in my opinion
so many meta users/sweats its not even funny anymore
shotgun rushers/invis hunters/hand held warlocks its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you ask me

[zOldBulldog]

Początkowo opublikowane przez SandTag:

Początkowo opublikowane przez UnPescadorRascuache:

literally pass me on my last match, you can see it on destiny elo tracker and put my name, 2 new player that didnt know how to move on lanes and constantly getting headshots, lose 3 rounds in a row, then i manage to tell them to stick with me and we won but watch my kills man! i carry the game and im in 3600 and i was matching a 4600 player, tell me if this SBMM works because this match tells other thing.

SBMM has never worked and i dont expect it to.

Plus, win a few matches in a row and the game will randomly decide its time to throw you into some boosh match with ppl double your elo/rank

Dude, it would throw me into double or triple my glory/ELO every time, until I intentionally blew lives to lose 3-4 matches in a row.

Of course the good players are screaming, because us noobs need to throw lives away and intentionally lose matches to get our quests done.

Luckily I am done with those now.