So, uh, bungie, about sniper rifles.

[Kashra Fall]

Could ya maybe tone down the bullet magnetism on snipers? Kind of silly how people are getting headshots while, you know, not shooting heads, but rather feet, the box next to the person, the spot behind the person etc. All witnessed by both myself whilst doing it, or seeing it on streams. There's a reason snipers are so rampant right now...

[Kashra Fall]

Początkowo opublikowane przez PAY4CRASH2:

Don't play on console.

You should really hop into the game on PC and test it sometime! Sniper rifles are very, very rewarding for very little work. Because of this, they are extremely overused in both PvE and PvP.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Lynn Gunn:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Hex:

It's way stronger on consoles, like x5 so it has nothing to do with consoles, but game design. Here's a news flash for you, the main focus has always been PvE in Destiny and PvE enemies are SO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ erratic that they had to leave some of it in because PvE would just not be fun for anyone without it.

Actually, using a controller on PC makes it exactly the same as consoles.

You are correct so to say it was for PvE is strictly opinionated.

There have been numerous videos and test of such things and you cant even trick it to think youre using a controller when you arent.

https://youtu.be/kCzVK0am6sM

About 5 mins 30 secs he'll talk about the whole thing.

[2PLY]

I feel like bows fall into this also, the further you are away the least any actual accuracy (in your own actual aiming) matters.

[2PLY]

One the thing i was shown before ever even starting destiny, is how one part of aiming actually works

"flinch" more specifically; if you're being shot at you are better off initially aiming at someone's body.

Since if aiming at their head, flinch (being shot at) will take you off where you want.

but if aiming at body or even surrounding area at a distance~ flinch (being shot at) will aim at the person's head instead lol

[2PLY]

so basically, if you sniping(or using any high range without zoom) with semi-bad aim at a decent distance and/or being shot at - more likely to be hitting some heads.

[Anti Homeless Rock]

Początkowo opublikowane przez PAY4CRASH2:

Don't play on console.

It's not a console exclusive things. Aim assist, ie reticle stickiness is only present on controller, while bullet magnetism is on all platforms, literally bending bullets to hit what you're aiming at.

[Kashra Fall]

Początkowo opublikowane przez 2PLY:

I feel like bows fall into this also, the further you are away the least any actual accuracy (in your own actual aiming) matters.

Oh they most certainly do. However, bows cannot one shot pretty much anything (Aside from grunts) and only require basic ammo. So in PvE not so much an issue, in PvP also not an issue as it takes 2 shots in pvp and around 2-3 in PvE. Snipers on the other hand with the scavenger perk/finder make things a breeze with very little effort. Not to say the game is hard, because it isn't (Minus some activities.) but in PvP this is basically becoming a plague and I blame a good amount of youtubers on it.

Lots of videos out there saying "Go for this godroll!" and well, people do.

[Flori281]

What
Out of all the weapons to have bullet homing
It's a sniper.
So I wasn't actually just getting pro skillz triple no scoped from people trying to snipe at shotgun range. I knew something was fishy about those snipers.

[Kashra Fall]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Liv:

All of you babies complaining about snipers need to learn to move and have map sense. I rarely get sniped even in 5,5k in comp because sniping is only rewarding if you're a god-tier shot, a pulse rifle user will flinch the hell out of you and gun you down before you can take cover, even some bow users can mess up a sniper with careful positioning and peeking.

Lol, just lol.

Learn to move... Hmmm, sliding, head shot, jumping, headshot, popping out of cover from an area they aren't aiming? Why that's a headshot. Upclose fight? Headshot.

Why? Rapidfire frame sniper rifles with snapshot sights have literally no downtime on aiming and have the same 1 shot functionality as aggressive frames. I'm glad you think you're really, really skilled though, I really do. However, fight a team of two or more rapid fire snipers and report back. Also, watch the videos of people displaying these weapons and see that they, themselves show you don't have to aim at the head, so they can shoot your foot and kill you. It's rediculous and stupid and doesn't make much sense from a PvP or PvE perspective.

The magnetism of the Graviton lance (Which has some of the higher AA in the game) and actually curves bullets around corners? Doesn't have the assistance a sniper rifle does.

And about your flinching thing? Anti-flinching armor is a thing you know and a good sniper will shoot you long before you shoot them. Why? Because the radar lets em know exactly where you are.

[luxon001]

i always though something was up with beloved when it was released. I didnt have season pass so i didnt judge. Now with shadowkeep and all and wheni got the pass and my first beloved i realized the thing needs less skill than a shotgun.

Aim for someones feet? Headshot
There were even insances when i killed people round a corner if they were close to it. Its literally free kills, and revoker isnt any better, not to mention the rapid fire frames.

[ReBeL]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Kashra Fall:

Could ya maybe tone down the bullet magnetism on snipers? Kind of silly how people are getting headshots while, you know, not shooting heads, but rather feet, the box next to the person, the spot behind the person etc. All witnessed by both myself whilst doing it, or seeing it on streams. There's a reason snipers are so rampant right now...

cry some more

[Vand]

Usually i would recommend sweet bussiness or any good 900 RPM weapon with good range to go against sniper.
Flinch are their biggest enemy, even top tier sniper users gonna have to retreat if they got flinch lock by it, anti flinch mods dont help much in this case.
But against 2 or 3 good sniper at once, thats kinda pain in the ass to deal with, i met this team composition couple of time, its been hell lol.

But then again, in Destiny 2 not many maps are in favor of sniper,
Map Obstacle like box and walls helps alot, always jump or slide if you know there's sniper behind the wall.
Good team coordination and good flanker (preferably night stalker) is your best bet vs full team of snipers.
And yes, there's no real counter to it if you get a maps that give advantage to sniper, which is the reason why you see more and more full sniper premade team these day.

[Kashra Fall]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Vand:

Usually i would recommend sweet bussiness or any good 900 RPM weapon with good range to go against sniper.
Flinch are their biggest enemy, even top tier sniper users gonna have to retreat if they got flinch lock by it, anti flinch mods dont help much in this case.
But against 2 or 3 good sniper at once, thats kinda pain in the ass to deal with, i met this team composition couple of time, its been hell lol.

But then again, in Destiny 2 not many maps are in favor of sniper,
Map Obstacle like box and walls helps alot, always jump or slide if you know there's sniper behind the wall.
Good team coordination and good flanker (preferably night stalker) is your best bet vs full team of snipers.
And yes, there's no real counter to it if you get a maps that give advantage to sniper, which is the reason why you see more and more full sniper premade team these day.

Yeah, I use the cerberus+1 to counter snipers due to the insane flinch it gives, but it's pretty hilarious how fast you get headshot if you don't turn a corner shooting. I've even burst jumped across like a duck game at a carnival and been headshot mid flight.

[Emurinus]

Nothing feels better when you take a bullet to the brain because a sniper just aims in your general direction. I can't recall how many times I've been snapshot because of BM, and 85% of my sniper deaths have been from Revoker.

[Timeless]

Well thats gonna mess with your aim.