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Terrible at PvP and wanting the Ace of Spades. Any tips?
I need 25 precision kills with a handcannon in Crucible, and after 7 games, I only have 1. I don't have any exotics and I'm a Warlock with Forsaken. I need tips, and very much a lot of help. The Ace of Spades is my most desirable weapon and I would really like it.
Originally posted by Da Calibrator:
Uh hello? OP says he doesn't have Eriana's Vow.

OP, like you I was not that interested in Crucible. I'd owned the game since early February and only started playing Crucible on the regular in September for the same reason you are now: to complete the Ace of Spades quest & the whole Cayde's Will thing was the perfect capper to the Forsaken campaign.

I did this in Rumble (the best place to do this IMO) and it was surprisingly easy to finish after a rough start. I used some exotic weapons you may not have (Malfeasance, Crimson and Sunspot). But you could try any weapons with an explosive perk you may already have in your collection (Trust maybe). Also look for armor perks that boost hand cannon reload time or targeting assistance. You could also add mods that boost damage. Remember to always aim for the head, easier said than done but stick with it. Also don't take players head on if you're not confident you'll win. I had good games and bad ones. But in the good ones I managed a lot of progress.

I should point out the game has changed since I did this weapon challenge. There were a lot of AFK players in September but you'll hardly see that now. But that got me a lot of free and easy kills.

Anyway just experiment with strategies, loadouts and subclasses and try to find an enjoyable play style that also augments what your trying to accomplish.

You might also consider posting in the Crucible Play Book reddit or checking Youtube on how others completed this step..

Hope this helps.
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Lusus Symphonia Dec 29, 2019 @ 12:13am 
Just play the game, it should come naturally if you spend time in the crucible, wait for momentum control because that way, you can get the drop on people more often.

Erianas vow is a whopper for headshots with what feels like a 90 aim assist.
Last edited by Lusus Symphonia; Dec 29, 2019 @ 12:13am
ERROR1018 Dec 29, 2019 @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by Van:
Use Eriana's Vow and grind away. It'll be your best bet. Go into Rumble if you can and use Eriana's Vow with some Hand Cannon Reserve mods to up your starting ammo.

Git gud would be my tip
Stronkbonk Dec 29, 2019 @ 1:16am 
Re-roll as Titan.
★C0pe★ Dec 29, 2019 @ 1:18am 
go to grind some good HC, like spare rations
Sirrus Dec 29, 2019 @ 1:19am 
What handcannon you do have and which one you like to use the most? Also, what's your input device, mouse or gamepad?
Originally posted by Red Monk:
Just play the game, it should come naturally if you spend time in the crucible, wait for momentum control because that way, you can get the drop on people more often.

Erianas vow is a whopper for headshots with what feels like a 90 aim assist.
mintTea Dec 29, 2019 @ 1:46am 
if you look at the youtube pvp gurus they have the FOV field of view set at about 80% and the objects in theFOV will appear larger which means that targets will be easier to hit.

easier targetting is not the same as accuracy.

at 105% all objects appear smaller and targetting is really hard.


the rest is just a hard and likely unpleasant grindfest.


Last edited by mintTea; Dec 29, 2019 @ 1:47am
Lusus Symphonia Dec 29, 2019 @ 1:53am 
Originally posted by mintTea:
if you look at the youtube pvp gurus they have the FOV field of view set at about 80% and the objects in theFOV will appear larger which means that targets will be easier to hit.

easier targetting is not the same as accuracy.

at 105% all objects appear smaller and targetting is really hard.
Lmao oh god.. reminds me of kliksphilip.
Stardama69 Dec 29, 2019 @ 3:09am 
Don't sweat it. Run with double hand cannons - Austringer and Kindled Orchid for instance -, play control or mayhem, stay behind your teammates and aim at the head whenever you shoot an opponent. Using this method I got 2-4 precision kills per match on average. You'll get there eventually.
Last edited by Stardama69; Dec 29, 2019 @ 5:28am
Read your guys' suggestions and I have a few responses. I'm running double generic hand cannons (can't remember their names, one's a rare and the other's a legendary) using a keyboard and mouse, and I don't have Eriana's Vow. I haven't tried Control or Mayhem yet so I'll definitely try those two. I don't want to killsteal but I'm not good enough to take on an opponent by myself so I guess I have no choice. Thanks for your help guys and please give me more tips if anything else comes to mind.
Hexatorium Dec 29, 2019 @ 3:56am 
Ikelos HC is a wonderful gun, not just for this but in general, and it's what I used.
Hexatorium Dec 29, 2019 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by TheBlazingTopHat:
Read your guys' suggestions and I have a few responses. I'm running double generic hand cannons (can't remember their names, one's a rare and the other's a legendary) using a keyboard and mouse, and I don't have Eriana's Vow. I haven't tried Control or Mayhem yet so I'll definitely try those two. I don't want to killsteal but I'm not good enough to take on an opponent by myself so I guess I have no choice. Thanks for your help guys and please give me more tips if anything else comes to mind.
Head to mars and grab the Ikelos Handcannon. You get it through Escalation Protocol, or doing some quests for Anna Bray. I highly recommend it. Other than that, stick with your team and help take down the enemy. It's not kill-stealing, that's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ salty players complain about and use as an excuse for low kill-counts.
Danyaell Dec 29, 2019 @ 4:15am 
Get a Spare Rations from Gambit Prime. I use it more than AoS now and I love AoS.
CurryGpuff Dec 29, 2019 @ 4:35am 
Originally posted by TheBlazingTopHat:
Read your guys' suggestions and I have a few responses. I'm running double generic hand cannons (can't remember their names, one's a rare and the other's a legendary) using a keyboard and mouse, and I don't have Eriana's Vow. I haven't tried Control or Mayhem yet so I'll definitely try those two. I don't want to killsteal but I'm not good enough to take on an opponent by myself so I guess I have no choice. Thanks for your help guys and please give me more tips if anything else comes to mind.
Steal away the kill mate, control is goOd cause 6 v 6, just follow your teamates around you will get 2 or 3 precision kill per game. I was like you once feeling unconfident to do pvp cause i was really terrible at first and also ace of spade is what got me to crucible as i also desire the weapon. Anyway good luck hope you get it!
Last edited by CurryGpuff; Dec 29, 2019 @ 4:36am
zOldBulldog Dec 29, 2019 @ 4:50am 
If you are bad follow a more skilled player, staying a bit back.

It will give you more time to aim, reduce the number of team deaths, and your hit might just be the extra damage it takes to save your teammate those times when he is about to be overwhelmed.

Also, use Eriana's for your initial hits, then switch to a hand cannon with more ammo afterwards if you have 2 or fewer rounds left.
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