Why not auto matchmaking for raids and dungeons!?

[Thunder]

Why is it that the game code does not do auto-matchmaking for raids and dungeons? Just like strikes.... a lot of people cant do raids or dungeons because they dont have a lot of friends playing destiny.... Usually u have 1-2 friends playing the game. Not 6.... It sucks.

[Tasso]

raid are hard activities to be done via matchmaking... dungeons they could add matchmaking for that it aint hard.

[fux]

have you played a raid before?

[Sterling]

Because having more options is, somehow, a bad thing. I never really understood it, but I can't really understand something that doesn't make sense, either.

[Lusus Symphonia]

Originally posted by Sterling:

Because having more options is, somehow, a bad thing. I never really understood it, but I can't really understand something that doesn't make sense, either.

If the option can and will leave a negative experience, yes it is a bad thing.

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Red Monk:

Originally posted by Sterling:

Because having more options is, somehow, a bad thing. I never really understood it, but I can't really understand something that doesn't make sense, either.

If the option can and will leave a negative experience, yes it is a bad thing.

That "bad experience" would be determined by those who use it, not those who argue against something they won't even touch.

[Dex]

Bungie likes to pretend that somehow their content is much more difficult that basically any mmo out there so you HAVE to have a premade group to complete their content.

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by Dex:

Bungie likes to pretend that somehow their content is much more difficult that basically any mmo out there so you HAVE to have a premade group to complete their content.

It's funny how it's always the people with 0 raid completions who are pushing this narrative...

[zOldBulldog]

Originally posted by Dex:

Bungie likes to pretend that somehow their content is much more difficult that basically any mmo out there so you HAVE to have a premade group to complete their content.

Agreed up to a point.

I think the real reason is that they don't want to do the effort to build a bit smarter matchmaking.

It should be pretty easy to CREATE a raid team if you have at least a 4 player fireteam, then accept additional players from the pool of solos and smaller fireteam (with the ability to boot them out if they don't satisfy the requirements). You could even have a few filter checkboxes to ensure that candidates meet at least basic requirements (like light level or certain gear) before being considered for a particular raid team.

Just seeing those requirements listed would be a huge and painless training benefit for those that don't yet meet them.

[Lusus Symphonia]

Originally posted by Sterling:

Originally posted by Red Monk:

If the option can and will leave a negative experience, yes it is a bad thing.

That "bad experience" would be determined by those who use it, not those who argue against something they won't even touch.

That "bad experience" is written in stone with facts, literally posted on each same thread and proven by other games implementing the same feature, you simply cannot appease all crowds.

[Trillian]

Even if raids had matchmaking, I'd still look for groups on the discord.
Why?
Because I don't want to try and explain what to do over text to people who either don't speak English or refuse to even use voice chat.

Go find a raid group how you are meant to, then you will understand why it doesn't have matchmaking.

Same with some of the other higher tier activities, how the hell do you organise who's using what gear in matchmaking?

[MOSLEY]

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

Originally posted by Dex:

Bungie likes to pretend that somehow their content is much more difficult that basically any mmo out there so you HAVE to have a premade group to complete their content.

Agreed up to a point.

I think the real reason is that they don't want to do the effort to build a bit smarter matchmaking.

It should be pretty easy to CREATE a raid team if you have at least a 4 player fireteam, then accept additional players from the pool of solos and smaller fireteam (with the ability to boot them out if they don't satisfy the requirements). You could even have a few filter checkboxes to ensure that candidates meet at least basic requirements (like light level or certain gear) before being considered for a particular raid team.

Just seeing those requirements listed would be a huge and painless training benefit for those that don't yet meet them.

...And then you have a system that isn't any easier to use or faster than using Discord to LFG, i.e. a massive waste of resources.

[Sterling]

Originally posted by Red Monk:

Originally posted by Sterling:

That "bad experience" would be determined by those who use it, not those who argue against something they won't even touch.

That "bad experience" is written in stone with facts, literally posted on each same thread and proven by other games implementing the same feature, you simply cannot appease all crowds.

Right, it's always the "facts". Saying they're "facts" don't make them so, and putting such an absolute "evidence" with nothing to prove it besides "oh, it's everywhere" might convince someone who only has two brain cells left. Curiously, the crowd they have to appease so happens to be the one you're in, right? Man, what a total coincidence, it's obviously not a completely biased person trying to pass their ideas as "facts" to compensate for something.

[Trillian]

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

Originally posted by Dex:

Bungie likes to pretend that somehow their content is much more difficult that basically any mmo out there so you HAVE to have a premade group to complete their content.

Agreed up to a point.

I think the real reason is that they don't want to do the effort to build a bit smarter matchmaking.

It should be pretty easy to CREATE a raid team if you have at least a 4 player fireteam, then accept additional players from the pool of solos and smaller fireteam (with the ability to boot them out if they don't satisfy the requirements). You could even have a few filter checkboxes to ensure that candidates meet at least basic requirements (like light level or certain gear) before being considered for a particular raid team.

Just seeing those requirements listed would be a huge and painless training benefit for those that don't yet meet them.

There is already something like this, or at least there was, it was a complete failure.

[zOldBulldog]

Originally posted by MOSLEY:

Originally posted by zOldBulldog:

Agreed up to a point.

I think the real reason is that they don't want to do the effort to build a bit smarter matchmaking.

It should be pretty easy to CREATE a raid team if you have at least a 4 player fireteam, then accept additional players from the pool of solos and smaller fireteam (with the ability to boot them out if they don't satisfy the requirements). You could even have a few filter checkboxes to ensure that candidates meet at least basic requirements (like light level or certain gear) before being considered for a particular raid team.

Just seeing those requirements listed would be a huge and painless training benefit for those that don't yet meet them.

...And then you have a system that isn't any easier to use or faster than using Discord to LFG, i.e. a massive waste of resources.

Meh, I don't really care.

- Experienced players go to LFG as you said.

- New players don't find LFG, get frustrated and a huge percentage quit before even buying a DLC. At the very least they should remove the "do a raid" step from quests when a player is on his first character (unless he asks to get them by enabling a checkbox in the settings). Just common sense.

The ones really paying for this failure is Bungie, in lost sales.

[Piplup Step]

Hey, here are some good locations to find people to raid/ do anything with

Destiny 2 Companion App
Bungie.net - (https://www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2/FireteamSearch?activityType=0&platform=0)
DTG Reddit Discord - (https://discord.gg/destinyreddit)

These are NOT the ONLY places to use but these ARE the MOST populated.
Feel free to message if you need anymore references