Sleeper Simulant and Telesto Catalyst

[Zreolur]

Why are these Exotic's catalyst from raids when the acquisition of these weapons has nothing to do with them? Why doesn't the Sleeper Catalyst come from EP and why doesn't Telesto Catalyst from like Heroic Adventures on Mercury?

I have no issue with Catalyst's being in raids if said weapon is acquired from the raid but this is just dumb. I do not raid nor have the time to do them.

[Criceto]

Nguyên văn bởi MOSLEY:

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

Without social features.

There's a Discord server with 250k users that you can quite easily use to find a group for any activity...

And thats not part of the game now, is it?

[Lusus Symphonia]

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

Nguyên văn bởi MOSLEY:

There's a Discord server with 250k users that you can quite easily use to find a group for any activity...

And thats not part of the game now, is it?

Doesn't have to be 😂 even if the game got it's own bungie LFG tab on the director, it makes no difference from just alt tabbing out and using a superior well established community full of regulars.

[Stardama69]

Nguyên văn bởi Red Monk:

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

And thats not part of the game now, is it?

Doesn't have to be 😂 even if the game got it's own bungie LFG tab on the director, it makes no difference from just alt tabbing out and using a superior well established community full of regulars.

When your players have to use third-party applications to achieve what could be done/should be doable in-game through a few clicks in a menu, you have failed as a dev.

[Lusus Symphonia]

Nguyên văn bởi Stardama69:

you have failed as a dev.

Thanks for your personal but unnecessary definition of a failed dev?

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Nguyên văn bởi Red Monk:

Doesn't have to be 😂 even if the game got it's own bungie LFG tab on the director, it makes no difference from just alt tabbing out and using a superior well established community full of regulars.

It can be well estabished here, on the bungie forum, or in game. Discord is thirdparty spyware that people only use because its so mindnumbingly easy to use and forced by incompetent devs.

Nguyên văn bởi Stardama69:

When your players have to use third-party applications to achieve what could be done/should be doable in-game through a few clicks in a menu, you have failed as a dev.

More so failed as a community, but seeing they didn't even bother trying to put even a basic LFG channel in game it does start to weigh in on the devs.

[Stardama69]

Nguyên văn bởi Red Monk:

Nguyên văn bởi Stardama69:

you have failed as a dev.

Thanks for your personal but unnecessary definition of a failed dev?

Thank you for your personal but unnecessary comment on my opinion. Have a nice day.

[Stardama69]

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

More so failed as a community, but seeing they didn't even bother trying to put even a basic LFG channel in game it does start to weigh in on the devs.

Well the community isn't responsible for the lack of proper social features in the game, isn't she ? People will use whatever tools they can find to make up for that and enjoy the game, they won't care that "by doing this they don't motivate the devs to fix the issues" or stuff, nor should they care.

Just to be clear, I use discord for this game and for other purposes, I don't mind it being my clan's HQ and I don't mind joining fireteams through Steam Friends. I'm not salty or complaining. I just stated my opinion, this whole thing is a failure from the devs.

[Criceto]

Nguyên văn bởi Stardama69:

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

More so failed as a community, but seeing they didn't even bother trying to put even a basic LFG channel in game it does start to weigh in on the devs.

Well the community isn't responsible for the lack of proper social features in the game, isn't she ? People will use whatever tools they can find to make up for that and enjoy the game, they won't care that "by doing this they don't motivate the devs to fix the issues" or stuff, nor should they care.

Just to be clear, I use discord for this game and for other purposes, I don't mind it being my clan's HQ and I don't mind joining fireteams through Steam Friends. I'm not salty or complaining. I just stated my opinion, this whole thing is a failure from the devs.

True, but the community just mindlessly going "lol just use discord" is relaying the idea to the devs "we don't need to have LFG features, someone else can do it".

[Nibbie]

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

Nguyên văn bởi Stardama69:

Well the community isn't responsible for the lack of proper social features in the game, isn't she ? People will use whatever tools they can find to make up for that and enjoy the game, they won't care that "by doing this they don't motivate the devs to fix the issues" or stuff, nor should they care.

Just to be clear, I use discord for this game and for other purposes, I don't mind it being my clan's HQ and I don't mind joining fireteams through Steam Friends. I'm not salty or complaining. I just stated my opinion, this whole thing is a failure from the devs.

True, but the community just mindlessly going "lol just use discord" is relaying the idea to the devs "we don't need to have LFG features, someone else can do it".

When I did raiding in GW2, which does have LFG, pretty much every run we still went into a discord anyway. Would probably be the same for Destiny, so I imagine it really is just a matter of why putting in all the work when it wouldn't do much anyway.

In any case, a ton of the game is like that. There are tons of catalysts locked to strikes/crucible/nightfalls when their weapons don't have to come from there. Heck, my poor baby the MIDA Multi-tool comes from a regular quest, but its catalyst comes from the highest competition in the Crucible. It is incentive to get out of your comfort zone, do more than just what you always do.

[ zi0]

Nguyên văn bởi Stardama69:

When your players have to use third-party applications to achieve what could be done/should be doable in-game through a few clicks in a menu, you have failed as a dev.

actually it's more about players. I don't use sheatty discord but there is a "first party" software that allow you to make your own group (or to join another), including schedule, activity and language options. Available on IPhone and Android. Very useful.

[MOSLEY]

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

Nguyên văn bởi MOSLEY:

There's a Discord server with 250k users that you can quite easily use to find a group for any activity...

And thats not part of the game now, is it?

I don't see how that's relevant. Your initial complaint was that catalysts shouldn't be locked behind "social" activities, despite the fact that the game is designed to be a social experience. Alt + tabbing to Discord can be described as a minor inconvenience at worst.

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Nguyên văn bởi Nibbie:

It is incentive to get out of your comfort zone, do more than just what you always do.

Then why do so many people have chat off?

[Criceto]

Nguyên văn bởi MOSLEY:

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

And thats not part of the game now, is it?

I don't see how that's relevant. Your initial complaint was that catalysts shouldn't be locked behind "social" activities, despite the fact that the game is designed to be a social experience. Alt + tabbing to Discord can be described as a minor inconvenience at worst.

I'd rather not alt tab to spyware.

[MOSLEY]

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

Nguyên văn bởi Nibbie:

It is incentive to get out of your comfort zone, do more than just what you always do.

Then why do so many people have chat off?

Because that's the default setting.

[MOSLEY]

Nguyên văn bởi Cricket:

Nguyên văn bởi MOSLEY:

I don't see how that's relevant. Your initial complaint was that catalysts shouldn't be locked behind "social" activities, despite the fact that the game is designed to be a social experience. Alt + tabbing to Discord can be described as a minor inconvenience at worst.

I'd rather not alt tab to spyware.

Oh, lmao. I forgot... You're THAT guy.