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Squishy Butt 2019 年 10 月 4 日 上午 4:08
WINE - Wine Is Not an Emulator
WINE - Wine Is Not an Emulator.

Proton also is NOT an emulator.

and they are most definitely NOT what you call "Modified Operating System" as per your particular poor choice of wording, just who are you to tell people if they're allowed to have modified their own OS? Who are you to tell what people can and can't have? You don't get to dictate to people if they're allowed to modify their own OS.
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Craiberk 2019 年 10 月 7 日 上午 11:39 
引用自 Craiberk
And I have a win 8.1 OEM license as well as win 10 license. Yet I am using Linux and happier. And yet you went and sweepingly called Linux users cheapskates. Or did i misread what you were trying to say?

Nope you read that correctly.

Linux is not for gaming.
In which case I must inquire one more time, are you talking from experience or out of your rear end? Because if you are talking from experience, the problem might just be you and not the system. Since for me and great many others Linux gaming works fine in most cases. Except in some where an overzealous anti-cheat systwm or a DRM decides to screw you over sodeways.

Just as a personal anecdote, I recently managed to run VTM:R on 3440x1440@32bit with maxed out graphics. And better yet, I even had the game overwrite old saves right out of the box without any hitch. Neither of which was something i couldnt do for an hour of digging around for various solutions on my win10. When it comes to saves I actually had to manually alt+tab and delete old saves before attempting to save anew(and experience many crashes in the process). Windows game, windows Windows and yet it runs much better on Linux right out of the box. Also, no microlag.
Craiberk 2019 年 10 月 7 日 上午 11:44 
引用自 TrialMacameau
引用自 CorruptedByte

Proton is specifically made to run games not meant for Linux, so it can run on Linux.

Games meant for Linux have the "SteamOS + Linux" Label.

Skyrim isn't meant to run on Linux, but Proton fixes that.

Devs can do as they want in making sure it won't work with Linux. Their game, our money though.

Sure do play the game on Linux but you'll get immediate Banned as that last guy who tried to run Destiny 2 on Linux got banned instantly Linux is NOT compatible for Destiny 2
If you can run something no problem, it is compatible. If you run it and subsequently get banned, it didn't suddenly become incompatible. It's just that the devs are evil control freaks and nedd to be opposed. And it saddens me deeply that you don't feel any desire to step in for a fellow gamer, but would rather metaphorically spit at someone who could use a bit of your voice.
You wanna play on Windows instead of Linux - you do you mate. But what I don't understand is why you aren't just being unhelpful, but are actively putting sticks in my wheels. Do you have an exaggerated crab in a bucket reflex or something?
Astasia 2019 年 10 月 7 日 上午 11:54 
引用自 Craiberk
If you can run something no problem, it is compatible. If you run it and subsequently get banned, it didn't suddenly become incompatible. It's just that the devs are evil control freaks and nedd to be opposed.

That's not how it works. You know the number of small bugs affecting small portions of the windows userbase? Some people can't do a certain quest, or get a certain error over and over, or don't matchmake/connect properly to other players. That's just one OS. Now imagine the number of tiny problems that would pop up over the dozens of various Linux OSs and windows emulators, imagine if some of those tiny problems included being able to pull free items out of the store, or become invulnerable in PvP, or crash the account server when they take a specific action. You can't just say "this sort of works, so have fun with it" in an online game like this, there needs to be some testing and supporting happening to make sure these setups don't destabilize the game or negatively impact other players, and just getting the game to run that smoothly on one OS is hard enough. I mean this should be common sense.
Comrade Pickles 2019 年 10 月 7 日 上午 11:57 
"I don't know anything about game development." - The thread.
Viper 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 12:01 
引用自 Craiberk
引用自 TrialMacameau

Sure do play the game on Linux but you'll get immediate Banned as that last guy who tried to run Destiny 2 on Linux got banned instantly Linux is NOT compatible for Destiny 2
If you can run something no problem, it is compatible. If you run it and subsequently get banned, it didn't suddenly become incompatible. It's just that the devs are evil control freaks and nedd to be opposed. And it saddens me deeply that you don't feel any desire to step in for a fellow gamer, but would rather metaphorically spit at someone who could use a bit of your voice.
You wanna play on Windows instead of Linux - you do you mate. But what I don't understand is why you aren't just being unhelpful, but are actively putting sticks in my wheels. Do you have an exaggerated crab in a bucket reflex or something?

Seriously..lol..They want as many people to be able to enjoy there game as possible. Its just not an officially supported OS.
RanceJustice (Kyo) 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 12:02 
This is a significant issue. Wine and Proton being "not compatible" does not indicate to anyone they are "Ban-worthy offenses". "Not Compatible / supported" simply means that Bungie takes no responsibility for the game being run on non-Windows OSes; all users of Wine / Proton are aware they're not going to go to Bungie and expect as if it was an officially supported OS. There's very little precedent for banning based on the use of Wine/Proton and those there are were generally overturned.

Blizzard's anticheat system used on World of Warcraft and other Battle.Net games erroneously flagged Wine users for ban, but Blizz not only reversed all the bans, they also modified their games so that users could make use of these systems without fear of being banned simply for using Linux. Multiple other developers have done the same, while others were proactive in ensuring that their games would not treat Linux users with Wine / Proton as hostile, some testing the game via Wine / Proton to allow a parity experience, even if they couldn't create a fully native Linux client.

I would urge Bungie to do the same. At very least, ensure that Linux users on Wine/Proton aren't treated as hostile nor flagged for ban. With the arrival of Destiny 2 on Steam, this is a great time for Bungie to ingratiate themselves to their new community by reaching out to Linux users with this gesture, as well as helping the game to run as well via Wine / Proton as possible. It will only mean more users, a better community, and good PR far beyond the amount of time and money invested in doing so.

Squishy Butt 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 1:57 
引用自 -iD-
引用自 Craiberk
There's not supporting and there's preventing something from the game from being playable on certain configurations.
Imagine if they arbitrarily threatened to perma-ban 2080 owners. There's about the same amount of them as there are Linux users.

Linux community is tough, they can make the software tick eventually even without active support from developers. What we cannot do however is avoid discrimination from zealots.

If any Bungie people reading this, imagine if you replaced "Linux users" in your "no Linux users in our game" resolution with "no black people". If you are willing to make one statement, but not the other, maybe just maybe you are being terrible people?
certain configurations? linux is an operating system not a configuration.

Linux is the kernel not the operating system.
[-iD-] 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 1:59 
引用自 -iD-
certain configurations? linux is an operating system not a configuration.

Linux is the kernel not the operating system.
so this easily google-able search is wrong?
"Linux is the best-known and most-used open source operating system."
Viper 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 2:00 
引用自 -iD-
certain configurations? linux is an operating system not a configuration.

Linux is the kernel not the operating system.

WIndows has a kernel to. The Kernel is simply the core of an OS.
The One They Call Dante 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 2:01 
引用自 Craiberk
引用自 TrialMacameau

Sure do play the game on Linux but you'll get immediate Banned as that last guy who tried to run Destiny 2 on Linux got banned instantly Linux is NOT compatible for Destiny 2
If you can run something no problem, it is compatible. If you run it and subsequently get banned, it didn't suddenly become incompatible. It's just that the devs are evil control freaks and nedd to be opposed. And it saddens me deeply that you don't feel any desire to step in for a fellow gamer, but would rather metaphorically spit at someone who could use a bit of your voice.
You wanna play on Windows instead of Linux - you do you mate. But what I don't understand is why you aren't just being unhelpful, but are actively putting sticks in my wheels. Do you have an exaggerated crab in a bucket reflex or something?

I already answered all of your questions. Linux is not a gaming OS. I truly don’t care how you feel about my stance, but if you want to play Destiny 2, the only current supported OS is Windows.

I frankly don’t see the need to jump down the rabbit hole of Linux-based.
Squishy Butt 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 2:04 
引用自 -iD-

Linux is the kernel not the operating system.
so this easily google-able search is wrong?
"Linux is the best-known and most-used open source operating system."
you ask any savvy Linux expert they will tell you what it is, and the very exact thing I just described to you.
[-iD-] 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 2:05 
引用自 -iD-
so this easily google-able search is wrong?
"Linux is the best-known and most-used open source operating system."
you ask any savvy Linux expert they will tell you what it is, and the very exact thing I just described to you.
no, i trust google over what you say.
change googles mind, i dare you.
Viper 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 2:07 
A Kernel is the resident part of an OS that is at the lowest level. It provides the basic services that allow everything else to work. Memory systems, file systems, and it links directly to the hardware. Linux is without doubt an Operating System. For example the drivers link to the kernel...be it the Windows Kernel...or the Linux kernel.
最後修改者:Viper; 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 2:11
[-iD-] 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 2:09 
he should probably go change wikipedia too.
SandTag 2019 年 10 月 7 日 下午 2:10 
引用自 -iD-
you ask any savvy Linux expert they will tell you what it is, and the very exact thing I just described to you.
no, i trust google over what you say.
change googles mind, i dare you.
google, aka the most unreliable, money hungry company in the world, and they are "trustworthy" no.
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