Overwhelmed by useless content

[Long Wang]

So I'm a Destiny 1 veteran and early player of D2 from Xbox One. I haven't played since the release of the first D2 DLC...and I have to say, wow was this game ruined.

I am simply overwhelmed by the amount of tedious and useless quests/triumphs/trophies/challenges that are vomited across my screen. And so much useless gear with endless materials that are all a chore to get.

Is gambit cool? I guess so, but hardly worth trying to grind to another carrot on a max light "level" hidden behind a $100 paywall.

Bungie's choice to move the game over to Steam and F2P is too little too late. Activision policies have done too much damage.

[Mac4zz]

I have to be honest. The graphics and gunplay is amazing, however I've never been so lost playing a video game before. The game started off well with a story/tutorial mode making the game feel a little more linear and understandable to progress. But after disconnecting and relogging in I was teleported to this area where I wondered around in third person aimlessly not understanding where I was to go or what to do. At some point I must have joined some random quest but am so lost its unbelievable. I don't understand what's going on, what I'm supposed to be doing, where/how I can upgrade and improve my character, etc. I don't even know if there's a story to this game at this point.

[Long Wang]

Originally posted by Mac4zz:

I have to be honest. The graphics and gunplay is amazing, however I've never been so lost playing a video game before. The game started off well with a story/tutorial mode making the game feel a little more linear and understandable to progress. But after disconnecting and relogging in I was teleported to this area where I wondered around in third person aimlessly not understanding where I was to go or what to do. At some point I must have joined some random quest but am so lost its unbelievable. I don't understand what's going on, what I'm supposed to be doing, where/how I can upgrade and improve my character, etc. I don't even know if there's a story to this game at this point.

There isn't really much of a story to begin with.

Trying to put myself in the shoes of a new player starting from nothing...forget it. They have added so much to grind for and to chase you are better off not even wasting your time.

[Jim]

Originally posted by Moist Abyss:

There isn't really much of a story to begin with.

there's plenty of story content, i've played through them several times, but from what I gather, new light has completely gutted the linear new player experience that was there before.

i.e. you'd start with the tower being bombed by the red legion and you'd lose your light, having to fight to get it back before you can even have a super ability. You'd be gradually introduced to the characters and different abilities, but now they just throw you in the deep end with the endgame areas.

Edit: I screwed up the quote formatting somehow, so I fixed it.

[Wanderer]

Originally posted by Mac4zz:

I have to be honest. The graphics and gunplay is amazing, however I've never been so lost playing a video game before. The game started off well with a story/tutorial mode making the game feel a little more linear and understandable to progress. But after disconnecting and relogging in I was teleported to this area where I wondered around in third person aimlessly not understanding where I was to go or what to do. At some point I must have joined some random quest but am so lost its unbelievable. I don't understand what's going on, what I'm supposed to be doing, where/how I can upgrade and improve my character, etc. I don't even know if there's a story to this game at this point.

Are you on the farm? I remember it having a story to follow.

But if they start you on the tower I can totally understand it being confusing!

[Hehaw]

Originally posted by Redfeather75:

Originally posted by Mac4zz:

I have to be honest. The graphics and gunplay is amazing, however I've never been so lost playing a video game before. The game started off well with a story/tutorial mode making the game feel a little more linear and understandable to progress. But after disconnecting and relogging in I was teleported to this area where I wondered around in third person aimlessly not understanding where I was to go or what to do. At some point I must have joined some random quest but am so lost its unbelievable. I don't understand what's going on, what I'm supposed to be doing, where/how I can upgrade and improve my character, etc. I don't even know if there's a story to this game at this point.

Are you on the farm? I remember being it having a story to follow.
If they start you on the tower I can totally understand it being confusing!

Yeah, you literally get like a 5 minute intro now and are thrown straight in the tower. From what I can tell there's tons of stuff thrown at you can do, but most of it is turbo easy, has worse rewards than what you start with, and no easily discernible way to tell what is worth doing and what isn't. It's a huge cluster.

[Long Wang]

Originally posted by Livshits:

Max light level is achievable by everyone, don't spew ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Learn the game mechanics, don't be a moron.

As far as I know, getting to 950 is impossible without the DLC, as it it's only achievable with loot provided from it. That might have changed with this latest Steam release and update but I doubt it.

[SmokeCheeba]

I'm curious, being a D1/D2 vet, what exactly is the storyline for new light players? I gather that it doesn't start the same way it did for all the day one players. Is the prologue still a thing? If everyone starts at 750 did they ever lose their light?

[Wondernoob]

Having just rerolled a character it gives you a new intro mission.

Then you get a quest to go to EDZ and do a few of each activities as well as a cut down story line there.

Then the other destinations unlock in turn based on EXP gains and each have a similar pair of quests with the set of activites completed and cut down story missions.

Also have the old Leviathan raid invite as well as the start of all the other content's quest lines in my logs, plus separate intro quests for crucible, gambit, strikes etc.

This is without unlocking the old story or starting the moon yet too...

[Maelstrom]

Originally posted by Mac4zz:

I have to be honest. The graphics and gunplay is amazing, however I've never been so lost playing a video game before. The game started off well with a story/tutorial mode making the game feel a little more linear and understandable to progress. But after disconnecting and relogging in I was teleported to this area where I wondered around in third person aimlessly not understanding where I was to go or what to do. At some point I must have joined some random quest but am so lost its unbelievable. I don't understand what's going on, what I'm supposed to be doing, where/how I can upgrade and improve my character, etc. I don't even know if there's a story to this game at this point.

You can play the campaign by visiting Amanda Holliday.

It's been made optional with the new version of the game because lots of players want to skip it to play with their friends who've played it already. But if you want to play the story, go see Amanda Holliday.

[Maelstrom]

Originally posted by Moist Abyss:

Originally posted by Livshits:

Max light level is achievable by everyone, don't spew ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Learn the game mechanics, don't be a moron.

As far as I know, getting to 950 is impossible without the DLC, as it it's only achievable with loot provided from it. That might have changed with this latest Steam release and update but I doubt it.

As far as I know, they've changed that with this DLC.

[SmokeCheeba]

Originally posted by Wondernoob:

Having just rerolled a character it gives you a new intro mission.

Then you get a quest to go to EDZ and do a few of each activities as well as a cut down story line there.

Then the other destinations unlock in turn based on EXP gains and each have a similar pair of quests with the set of activites completed and cut down story missions.

Also have the old Leviathan raid invite as well as the start of all the other content's quest lines in my logs, plus separate intro quests for crucible, gambit, strikes etc.

This is without unlocking the old story or starting the moon yet too...

That is a really stupid decision on Bungie's part, considering the start of D2 originally was a reboot of sorts and a reason as to why all the D1 players lost their gear. It would have worked just as well to introduce the New Lights into the universe too.

[Wondernoob]

Agreed, you don't realise how much stuff is getting thrown at newbies until you go through it yourself and suddenly see things like the old MIDAS Multi Tool quests etc.

[Long Wang]

Originally posted by Wondernoob:

Agreed, you don't realise how much stuff is getting thrown at newbies until you go through it yourself and suddenly see things like the old MIDAS Multi Tool quests etc.

It is pretty inexcusable honestly and will undoubtedly scare off many new players.

[JaxTek]

Originally posted by Moist Abyss:

Originally posted by Wondernoob:

Agreed, you don't realise how much stuff is getting thrown at newbies until you go through it yourself and suddenly see things like the old MIDAS Multi Tool quests etc.

It is pretty inexcusable honestly and will undoubtedly scare off many new players.

At least they're F2P so they're out nothing when they move on.

[mdart]

Originally posted by Moist Abyss:

Originally posted by Livshits:

Max light level is achievable by everyone, don't spew ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Learn the game mechanics, don't be a moron.

As far as I know, getting to 950 is impossible without the DLC, as it it's only achievable with loot provided from it. That might have changed with this latest Steam release and update but I doubt it.

950 you should be able to hit as you can do strikes pvp gambit ect all free but the new ordeal night fall i dont know about and the new raid when it comes out you wont so while 960 might be possible i dont belive it is