Do yourself a favor and pick warlock or titan.

[Derpimus]

At some point, you'll at least have to go into pvp and hunters are so unbelievably weak compared to the other classes you will have such a rough time. My main is a hunter, played since D2 launched and have suffered ever since. Every time we get a cool super that puts us on par with the other classes we get nerfed right on back down. Wishing I was a warlock at this point, thankfully now that everything starts at 750 I might make the switch.

[Sin Eater (𝕸𝖆𝖙𝖙ツ)]

your just bad at pvp xd

[Derpimus]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

It kind of sounds like to me that you're blowing your load before a fight or something, or just don't have the proper gear to support a PvP hunter. What's your grenade cool down timer? What's your resilience, recovery etc?

I'm literally explaining that every ability in the other two classes are pound for pound BETTER.
We had something good with the wormhusk that made our dodge actually viable but guess what nerfnerfnerf

[Derpimus]

Originally posted by MATTFACKU:

your just bad at pvp xd

yeah totally titans having a one hit kill melee vs a hunter that doesn't just makes them bad. Makes sense.

[Sin Eater (𝕸𝖆𝖙𝖙ツ)]

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

Originally posted by MATTFACKU:

your just bad at pvp xd

yeah totally titans having a one hit kill melee vs a hunter that doesn't just makes them bad. Makes sense.

no lol ive seen alot of hunters just ♥♥♥♥ up people in pvp more than once.... Just bc you are bad at pvp doesnt mean that the class is trash at pvp

[Master Cheeks]

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

Originally posted by Booty Prospector:

Imagine unironically thinking Hunter is the worst PvP pick.

It wasn't until invis got nerfed. No one can say anything positive that the hunter does that the other two classes don't do better.
Better supers. Better nades. Better abilities.
The hunter is my main man, favorite class, but I recognize that it's ass in pvp.

Alright so you need some education. As a Warlock main you've giving it way too much credit. We have the slowest melee in the game meaning in a straight up fight melee fight we will lose every time before we can get a second hit off. All of our supers with the exception of Daybreak bottom tree and Nova bomb are not noteworthy or greatly useful in PvP. Our pulse grenade is a blessing but definitely not something I would go as far to call a "game changer". And the Well you're moaning about so much really only works against stupid players. It takes too long to drop during a duel and 9/10 times youre gonna get popped before its placed and healing you. It's only useful for holding points while capping and any half decent player will just wait til it dissipates to engage. Hunters get Arc Staff which is easily the best PvP super in the game besides bottom tree Striker for Titans. That alone is enough to keep them viable. If you're really struggling that much playing Hunter I'd start looking at your individual skill rather than blaming your class.

I do agree that Titans rule the Crucible so if you're going in with strictly PvP in mind you're gonna wanna pick that.

[Lieutenant Dan]

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

Originally posted by Hexatorium:

I think OP is just trash at PvP and salty about it.

Go ahead and tell me one advantage hunters have. Healing rift and shield wall alone make this class absolute trash.

Movement, you know. the thing that has the highest skill ceiling in the game...

[Derpimus]

Originally posted by Booty Prospector:

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

It wasn't until invis got nerfed. No one can say anything positive that the hunter does that the other two classes don't do better.
Better supers. Better nades. Better abilities.
The hunter is my main man, favorite class, but I recognize that it's ass in pvp.

Alright so you need some education. As a Warlock main you've giving it way too much credit. We have the slowest melee in the game meaning in a straight up fight melee fight we will lose every time before we can get a second hit off. All of our supers with the exception of Daybreak bottom tree and Nova bomb are not noteworthy or greatly useful in PvP. Our pulse grenade is a blessing but definitely not something I would go as far to call a "game changer". And the Well you're moaning about so much really only works against stupid players. It takes too long to drop during a duel and 9/10 times youre gonna get popped before its placed and healing you. It's only useful for holding points while capping and any half decent player will just wait til it dissipates to engage. Hunters get Arc Staff which is easily the best PvP super in the game besides bottom tree Striker for Titans. That alone is enough to keep them viable. If you're really struggling that much playing Hunter I'd start looking at your individual skill rather than blaming your class.

I do agree that Titans rule the Crucible so if you're going in with strictly PvP in mind you're gonna wanna pick that.

You have a one hit kill melee. If you're getting into fistfights and losing, I suggest you reevaulate your positioning. Healing rift taking a while to pop? Really? That's the huge downside that could potentially make hunters a better class? And yeah, arcstrider is dope but warlocks can straight up turn into a flying sword shooting TANK that one hit kills anything it touches. And you flat out admit you have better grenades. So at the absolute best in this discussion, you freely admit that your ability is better and grenades too. And if anything, the supers could be considered even. Yeah sure call me bad, but I know for damn sure what my abilities are when facing titans and warlocks and they're not up to par.

[Filipino Enjoyer]

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

Originally posted by MOSLEY:

Hunter and titan are both incredibly strong PVP classes. Warlock is fine but it trails behind a little.

You're out of your mind if you think the two classes with the "I don't feel like dying right now" buttons that also get instant kill melee are in the same league as the poor hunter. Grenades are ♥♥♥♥ on hunter, they have no utility at all. The only thing they have going for them is invisibility and that got nerfed.

what kinda ♥♥♥♥ are you smoking if you think warlocks have one hit melee lol

[Master Cheeks]

Originally posted by Dangalf:

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

Go ahead and tell me one advantage hunters have. Healing rift and shield wall alone make this class absolute trash.

Movement, you know. the thing that has the highest skill ceiling in the game...

The fact that this post exists means he's definitely lacking in that department.

[Derpimus]

Originally posted by Dangalf:

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

Go ahead and tell me one advantage hunters have. Healing rift and shield wall alone make this class absolute trash.

Movement, you know. the thing that has the highest skill ceiling in the game...

Shield bubble: Can't move around the backside of that now can you? Didn't think so.

[Maskerader]

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

Plus events like iron banner are pvp only, so unless you want to stand around at the tower doing nothing

Or you can go do something else. There's a lot do in the game if you're interested in it. Not everyone's interests are limited to events only.

[Derpimus]

Originally posted by Maskerader:

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

Plus events like iron banner are pvp only, so unless you want to stand around at the tower doing nothing

Or you can go do something else. There's a lot do in the game if you're interested in it. Not everyone's interests are limited to events only.

Sure if you want to miss out on some seriously dope armor and guns, go do a strike instead. The point of this thread is to show how one class is worse at pvp specifically and events like iron banner are a real headache to plow through.

[Master Cheeks]

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

Originally posted by Booty Prospector:

Alright so you need some education. As a Warlock main you've giving it way too much credit. We have the slowest melee in the game meaning in a straight up fight melee fight we will lose every time before we can get a second hit off. All of our supers with the exception of Daybreak bottom tree and Nova bomb are not noteworthy or greatly useful in PvP. Our pulse grenade is a blessing but definitely not something I would go as far to call a "game changer". And the Well you're moaning about so much really only works against stupid players. It takes too long to drop during a duel and 9/10 times youre gonna get popped before its placed and healing you. It's only useful for holding points while capping and any half decent player will just wait til it dissipates to engage. Hunters get Arc Staff which is easily the best PvP super in the game besides bottom tree Striker for Titans. That alone is enough to keep them viable. If you're really struggling that much playing Hunter I'd start looking at your individual skill rather than blaming your class.

I do agree that Titans rule the Crucible so if you're going in with strictly PvP in mind you're gonna wanna pick that.

You have a one hit kill melee. If you're getting into fistfights and losing, I suggest you reevaulate your positioning. Healing rift taking a while to pop? Really? That's the huge downside that could potentially make hunters a better class? And yeah, arcstrider is dope but warlocks can straight up turn into a flying sword shooting TANK that one hit kills anything it touches. And you flat out admit you have better grenades. So at the absolute best in this discussion, you freely admit that your ability is better and grenades too. And if anything, the supers could be considered even. Yeah sure call me bad, but I know for damn sure what my abilities are when facing titans and warlocks and they're not up to par.

Lmao. I could say the same thing about Arc Staff, "ninja fast movement with ability to literally block bullets and long usage time omg so broken". You're definitely the type of low skill player who thinks running into a Warlocks Well to try and 1v1 them is a good idea. The "one hit kill melee" you seem so fixated on is handheld supernova which is only on the middle tree for void and uses grenade energy so it's not like it can be spammed. And I don't know why you seem convinced that Warlocks having a good grenade makes Hunters trash. How donkey doodoo is your positioning that you're managing to get killed so much by grenades? I usually don't like to say "git gud" to people but I'm making an exception here.

[Derpimus]

Originally posted by Booty Prospector:

Originally posted by CamJam McShitFlinger:

You have a one hit kill melee. If you're getting into fistfights and losing, I suggest you reevaulate your positioning. Healing rift taking a while to pop? Really? That's the huge downside that could potentially make hunters a better class? And yeah, arcstrider is dope but warlocks can straight up turn into a flying sword shooting TANK that one hit kills anything it touches. And you flat out admit you have better grenades. So at the absolute best in this discussion, you freely admit that your ability is better and grenades too. And if anything, the supers could be considered even. Yeah sure call me bad, but I know for damn sure what my abilities are when facing titans and warlocks and they're not up to par.

Lmao. I could say the same thing about Arc Staff, "ninja fast movement with ability to literally block bullets and long usage time omg so broken". You're definitely the type of low skill player who thinks running into a Warlocks Well to try and 1v1 them is a good idea. The "one hit kill melee" you seem so fixated on is handheld supernova which is only on the middle tree for void and uses grenade energy so it's not like it can be spammed. And I don't know why you seem convinced that Warlocks having a good grenade makes Hunters trash. How donkey doodoo is your positioning that you're managing to get killed so much by grenades? I usually don't like to say "git gud" to people but I'm making an exception here.

The fact that some CAN be killed by grenades is the entire point here. Yeah the ninja arc staff is nice, but you're telling me that for ONE moment in a pvp match the hunter gets to have some fun? And it's not like we can FLY, you can just walk backwards and light them up no problem. We cant hit anyone at a distance, which flamesword mc dookiefaces can.

[Derpimus]

I'm literally not here saying "I've been killed by this and that so it's not fair"
I am looking at the abilities for these classes objectively and the hunter is by far the worse. If anything, titans are CLEAR winners here and warlocks are fairly close but they absolutely have the edge.