WarPlan or Strategic Command WWII

[Ron Jambo]

Hey guys, I just don't know which is the biggest difference between the two games. So I am not sure which one I should try. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

[Montecalm]

Both are worth getting.

[Kraken Studios]

Main differences.

WarPlan - pure wargame medium high complexity
SC3 - decision event system medium complexity
WarPlan - more like World in Flames.
SC3 - more like Order of Battle

I suggest looking at video for both then make a decision. They are very different in how they play. With the sale I would get both. Both are excellent games.

I developed WarPlan and I play both.

Since both are on sale now GET BOTH!!!! WarPlan is $30, SC3 $15 currently. Basically you get both games for the price of one of them,

[Crismac]

Hi Does WarPlan have sprites option on just counters thanks.

[Kraken Studios]

Not 3d ones like SC3. It has silhouettes. But it is moddable.

Some players have put really nice color unit replacements for the counters.

You could also use 3d images.

But 3d images are incredibly expensive to purchase for a game and this was my 1st developed game.

[Crismac]

Thanks Alvaro for the answer. Other than using workshop I have not installed mods manually. Is it fairly simple? I am going to buy WarPlan looks like a lot of fun. I have SC3 already.

[Kraken Studios]

Matrix doesn't use Workshops. For updated images it's easy. There are instructions on the Matrix forum on where to put it. If it doesn't help post you need help and me or someone else will answer you.

[Crismac]

Thanks for the info. I will look there.

[Ron Jambo]

Okay, thanks for the infos!

[TheCr33pur]

I enjoyed those sprites in Hearts of Iron - Darkest Hour or most of those series. Not much into counters. Also would like to see some actions, what it like on the battlefield and engagement. Get the feel what is really like.

On Matrix Games, War in the Pacific Admiral Edition wasnt bad, just wish the more realistic and i know that you guys working on Pacific version as well. Another game like War in the East, wasnt too fond with it, cause left out the action parts.

Also noticed there are working on part two War in the East, didnt really look into it yet. Been looking for some real actions in engagements with realistic war games during war world 2. Not very many good ones out there.

[Kraken Studios]

WarPlan is less detailed than War in the..... any of those games from 2 by 3 games.
WarPlan is more complex than Strategic Command 3.

[jwarrenw13]

I decided to try playing tandem Warplan and SCWIE games this week, as well as a few turns of Shadow Empire a day. I retired in July, so I have all day to play games if I want to. I've played a lot of SC, but this is my first full Warplan game after a couple of starts just to get the feel of things. I'm basically playing a month of one and then of the other. I just finished 1939 and am in about the same place with both, playing as Axis. Poland conquered. Denmark conquered. German forces moved from the Polish front to the Western front. Submarine warfare under way. And I agree with Alvaro, who would of course know. WP is more detailed and complex than SC. I'm still figuring out how some of the detail works in practice. SC as much fun as I remember it. WP very interesting to learn and enjoyable. I'll try to add more after playing through 1940, but you can't go wrong with either game in my opinion based on what I've seen of Warplan so far. It might just depend on the level of complexity you want.

[Kraken Studios]

1.00.09 patch is around the corner. The latest rules will be directly in the Matrix launcher. A lot of good changes and fixes were made that the players are really excited about.

[jwarrenw13]

Update. I've now played both WP and SCWIE through the fall of France. Both played out rather similarly, though I conquered France faster in WP (see below). In WP I captured Paris June 26 and France surrendered Aug 2. In SC I captured Paris Aug 4 and France surrendered Aug 18. I did not repeat the historical operation but made a penetration in both games through the Allied lines in Belgium and drove straight to Paris while expanding the penetration.

Actually I had to play the German offensive twice in WP. I'm still getting used to combat and overextended my panzer groups the first time and lost two of them at the gates of Paris. So I replayed it with just a little more caution while watching the combat power of the panzer groups better. You can attack repeatedly if you have operations points, and if you don't watch out, you can weaken a unit so much that it is vulnerable to a counterattack. I made that mistake, and the AI took advantage of it with an impressive counterattack. I'm more familiar with SC and didn't need a save scum to take Paris on schedule, though the AI did put up a good fight and repeatedly put units in good defensive positions while retreating.

Norway was interesting. In SC, the Axis can take Norway through a decision event. In WP, you have to take it yourself, and I had to watch a Youtube on invading Norway and then try that a couple of times to get it to work. It is a finesse operation.

A word on mods. I'm using the PHalen counter mod in WP, from the Matrix site. The big difference is that the air units are circular and offset a little in the hex. This makes it a lot easier to pick out the air units immediately. That mod has several other cosmetic changes that look good, but the air units is what I really like. There are several mods at the Matrix site and they are very easy to install.

In SC I'm using the Spires NATO counter mod that also uses circles for air units and uses hex-shaped counters for naval units and makes a few cosmetic improvements.

[Kraken Studios]

Glad you like it.

[Nitro]

Why not both? Treat yourself.