Jagged Alliance 3

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Tagilla Jul 19, 2023 @ 5:41am
Clothes on character models are fixed
So downer to have clothes on character models fixed, i mean come on Devs its 2023 Xcom 2 already did this in 2016. You made an amazing job on weapon customization why not do that also on clothes and gear? The only jagged Alliance game i didn't buy yet :(.
Last edited by Tagilla; Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:16am
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Sunniy Jul 19, 2023 @ 7:40am 
What do you mean by fixed? If you add new armor and clothes their appearance wont change?
echoes222 Jul 19, 2023 @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by there.is.no.spoon:
What do you mean by fixed? If you add new armor and clothes their appearance wont change?
it won't, no.
Tagilla Jul 19, 2023 @ 7:58am 
@there.is.no.spoon yes appearance of mercs are fixed, you only can add helmet,armor vest and pants which non change the appearance. The worst part this game was always a tactical game and most of mercs look like civilians with guns.
Adz Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:01am 
This is one of the few issues I have with JA3. It breaks immersion when I've got Barry decked out in heavy armour with a helmet and he's just chilling in jeans and a shirt in-game. It's not a huge deal, I just thought this was a common feature with games such as this.
Last edited by Adz; Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:57am
Tagilla Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:14am 
@Addzi it is common with games such this Wasteland 3, Xcom 2, Divinity: Original Sin 2 and Gears Tactics....The list goes long.
zpc Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:26am 
@OP

Yeah, it's awful. They did the same ridiculous stuff with Wasteland 2 to please some backers which resulted in cloth visuals only as well. I wouldn't mind this as an option for those people who fancy going into battle with pyjamas - but come on, a merc game without visible combat gear? What's next? NPCs faking weapons with their fingers and shouting "pew! pew!"? :steamsad:
Don Quijote Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:32am 
may be later they can add this feature with patches if the game sells well
suejak Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:32am 
I have come to prefer it this way. It's lame when everybody looks the same in armour with a helmet. It also helps for visibility and identifying who's who in the midst of things.

But realistically, they could have let you turn it on/off in settings.
khr0927 Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:43am 
I have Fidel in my team, and his Guevarra-like style means so much to his personality. If I put Heavy armor and helmet on him, he is nothing more than a guy with mustache. I can say similar thing about Tex, whose outfit makes it very easy to know that he is a cowboy-wannabe, hence probably good at handling revolvers. If I take his hat away and put night vision goggle on his head, these moods are all gone.
I want some of the mercs put on something makes them look like a actual soldier rather than a Youtuber or something, but its better than clone outfits.
Last edited by khr0927; Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:48am
Paul Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:52am 
I don't mind to be honest. They would all look pretty much the same, this way each merc has a unique look and is easy to see. I don't want Fox to ever not have a cleavage!
Adz Jul 19, 2023 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by Marom:
@Addzi it is common with games such this Wasteland 3, Xcom 2, Divinity: Original Sin 2 and Gears Tactics....The list goes long.
Yes, I've played them all. That's why I was a bit disappointed. However, it does make sense why they wouldn't add armour etc. as they'd all be wearing the same things.
Last edited by Adz; Jul 19, 2023 @ 9:01am
Hymzir Jul 19, 2023 @ 9:07am 
It's stylistic choice. Still on the fence about it. The devs have noted that they originally intended implemented visible gear, but after testing chose not to, 'cause everyone ended up looking the same.

Couple of days ago I watched a bunch of JA related Y-tube vids, and one of them went over the various games in the franchise. I pretty much skipped everything after JA2 cause they were kinda bad, so didn't really know much about them. As I was watching the vid, I noted that at least one game did have visible gear feature, and everyone in it looked like a generic green army man. Impossible to tell who was who by sight. That did indeed look kinda boring and bland.

The individual merc personalities are a big part of the whole JA thing, and I think the individual clothing choices does indeed enhance that. And the game is supposed to be a portrayal of classic action flicks, and not a simulation of spec op teams, so the individual costumes make sense in that regard too.

Some of the clothing choices are kinda odd in my eye, and some I think don't really fit the characters. Most do though, and I do appreciate that individuality. Though at times I do wish that the armor and helmets did appear on the character models. Like I said, am still on the fence about it. I can see the advantages and the disadvantages of both approach.

Really wish there was some compromise between the two. That did show the gear in some fashion, but also managed to retain the personal styles of the mercs. But I suppose that was just not economic thing for the devs to pursue. It would've required custom models for every gear on every character. Too much work for a small studio to implement.

As a side note, gas masks do show on the character model for some odd reason. It's the only bit of gear I've found that does. Maybe it's a leftover from the earlier build. Back from when they were still fiddling with having visible gear.
xmd1997 Jul 19, 2023 @ 9:14am 
They addressed this in an interview. Basically due to the fact that the mercs in the game come in varying shapes and sizes (unlike XCOM where male and females share the same body type) they would have to create unique 3D assets to fit each individual merc.

So to save time and money on development they decided it was better
to spend their manpower on other areas of development that needed their attention.

Maybe one day Modders can make this happen but it sounds like it would take a lot of work.
Last edited by xmd1997; Jul 19, 2023 @ 9:15am
Warl Jul 19, 2023 @ 9:15am 
yes dont understand the devs nowadays... its lazyness or what is that??
McLovin Jul 19, 2023 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by Paul:
I don't mind to be honest. They would all look pretty much the same, this way each merc has a unique look and is easy to see. I don't want Fox to ever not have a cleavage!

Yeah i also like it this way, They are easy to distinguish with one look
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