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I killed Pieree, now I must die. Anybody have an idea who is Pierre?
:steambored:
Originally posted by Zack:
Pierre is the leader of the Legion troops on Tutorial Island at the outpost. When beating him you can choose to let him live or kill him i a dialogue
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Zack Aug 8, 2023 @ 11:51pm 
Pierre is the leader of the Legion troops on Tutorial Island at the outpost. When beating him you can choose to let him live or kill him i a dialogue
Originally posted by Zack:
Pierre is the leader of the Legion troops on Tutorial Island at the outpost. When beating him you can choose to let him live or kill him i a dialogue

Would anything changed if I let him live?
Bozzemoggel Aug 9, 2023 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by meisy:
Originally posted by Zack:
Pierre is the leader of the Legion troops on Tutorial Island at the outpost. When beating him you can choose to let him live or kill him i a dialogue

Would anything changed if I let him live?

you can hire him later on and he works for free... (not that you wanted to pay for his low skills)

...also then, he´s somewhat a little part of the "perfect ending"
Razamanaz Aug 9, 2023 @ 12:19am 
Originally posted by meisy:
Originally posted by Zack:
Pierre is the leader of the Legion troops on Tutorial Island at the outpost. When beating him you can choose to let him live or kill him i a dialogue

Would anything changed if I let him live?
You can hire him as a merc if he lives.
FatalException Aug 9, 2023 @ 1:32am 
Pierre is actually the most principled of the possible free hires.
Dorok Aug 9, 2023 @ 2:04am 
Originally posted by FatalException:
Pierre is actually the most principled of the possible free hires.
Also a fanatic headbutted. I did my best, ok not the best, and he prefer do nothing than help, he is an idiot.
Bozzemoggel Aug 9, 2023 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by FatalException:
Pierre is actually the most principled of the possible free hires.

that might be up to debate...
engager6 Aug 9, 2023 @ 4:30am 
Pierre is quite disappointing as merc, he hates stealth and constantly talks about him being able to get any enemy head on, while his stats and abilities in combat are not great, to say at least. He is pretty stubborn and stupid, and that is shown well in his special dialogues, especially with the Major, who make laugh on him for been "stupid kid" who do not understand how world works (and rightfully so). However if you will still have him in your team at game end it will be shown in endgame slides, where Emma praises him and president assigns him as special millitary advisor.

You can rescue him or kill him, no big deal, personally i don't like him and kill him anyway in my last playthroughs, so he can die for being blind follower of the Legion. In the end, he and people like him are the reason this ingame country was so easily manipulated and pillaged by foreigners. Hitting his own home vilage with Legion? Killing the friends of his father? Yea, this guy had a lot to answer for, in my book he does not deserve the chance you can get him by rescuing later.

All this is debatable of course, but his impact on the game is limited, he is of any real use only if you are going to recruit Major, to get some respect from the later (+25), but otherwise, his stats like merc are not good and at least he require a lot of training, and you get him so late in the game he is of little use anyway. So don't bother about this choice too much, and don't feel bad for killing him.
Last edited by engager6; Aug 9, 2023 @ 4:46am
Dorok Aug 9, 2023 @ 5:39am 
Originally posted by Bozzemoggel:
Originally posted by FatalException:
Pierre is actually the most principled of the possible free hires.

that might be up to debate...
Curious, can you elaborate?

Major and Flay are obviously disqualified, I don't see how Larry or Smiley can be considered very principled.

Pierre could not have your morale or my morale but he has a strict morale and stick to it. He is quite similar than Barry with a different morale base.

Pierre past could be more cloudy, but from when you meet him, he is the most principled of free mercs.
Gilsan Aug 9, 2023 @ 12:08pm 
Kill him and enjoy the loyalty boost in Ernie :steamthumbsup:
Cougarific Aug 9, 2023 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by Gilsan:
Kill him and enjoy the loyalty boost in Ernie :steamthumbsup:
Yeah I went to all the trouble of saving him on my first playthrough and found it a complete waste of time, effort and ammo. His personality and skills just suck.

Second playthrough Fidel put a bullet through his skull and EVERYBODY (except his father) was like :cozybethesda:
Last edited by Cougarific; Aug 9, 2023 @ 12:19pm
Bozzemoggel Aug 9, 2023 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Dorok:
Originally posted by Bozzemoggel:

that might be up to debate...
Curious, can you elaborate?

Major and Flay are obviously disqualified, I don't see how Larry or Smiley can be considered very principled.

Pierre could not have your morale or my morale but he has a strict morale and stick to it. He is quite similar than Barry with a different morale base.

Pierre past could be more cloudy, but from when you meet him, he is the most principled of free mercs.

depends on how you approach the "principled" term...

Pierre is the one talking about honor and valor, but that´s exactly it, He´s a talker. His actions point the other way (attacking his home village etc). He has a high opinion of himself without much backing that up, even after a change of mind.

At one point he talks to Flay, saying that he does not fear Flay, because he does not fear honesty. Well, that´s a point for both of them i assume.

Flay might be a murderer, but he seems to have his own principles and he´s much more loyal to them than Pierre. At the end of the day, all mercs are killers, no matter how goofy or badass they come across. Flay has other values than common people do, correct, at one point he values an animal higher than a bunch of porchers, correct. He enjoys killing, also correct. Still he seems to care about Grand Chien and more than once he seems to show some sort of decency throughout the campaign. Well, and Pierre...
Talking about honor doesn´t make you honorable at all. In that regard, Pierre reminds me of a king who feels the need to remember everyone that he is the king.

that´s just one of my thoughts... bottom line: it´s good to have different characters. Some like these, some like others. I doubt anyone really likes Pierre,...or Smiley, but if so -> good for them xD
FatalException Aug 9, 2023 @ 1:07pm 
Originally posted by Bozzemoggel:
Originally posted by FatalException:
Pierre is actually the most principled of the possible free hires.

that might be up to debate...

Please, indulge us. It seems a very short debate to me.

Major and Flay don't even pretend to have anything resembling a moral code. Larry is a junky who puts explosives into Toys and Smiley is ready to kill dozens of people to kidnap a woman from the place she's confortable in and press her into marriage because she was his girlfriend for a few days or weeks tops.

At least Pierre believes in something greater then himself and tries to improve things. He also is ready to shoulder the consequences and face the sentence.
Dr.Acula Aug 9, 2023 @ 1:13pm 
Well "principled" is probably questionable. In my first playthrough I hired him and Spike and at the end it resulted in him creating a civil war in the country because he ended up hunting Spike and in the process creating more problems...
Last edited by Dr.Acula; Aug 9, 2023 @ 1:14pm
Originally posted by engager6:
he hates stealth

"You wish me to crawl like a wheat dough ?" Okay but seriously what the F*CK did he mean by this.
Last edited by Robert J. Sullivan; Aug 9, 2023 @ 3:13pm
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