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beware of DCS free, you wont be able to manipulate any of the inner controls of the plane via the mouse. That you have to pay for. With DCS world you get a single plane to just mess around in. For about 29-30$ you buy a CD key to download from them the other planes (Start with the huey and blackshark for choppers)
FSX is the best civilian flight simulator on PC there is, its a wonderful game as well as somewhere you can learn to fly without taking expensive lessons - it actually has a realistic flight course in the game. Certainly when I took control of a glider the knowledge gained in FSX came is very useful.
ARMA2's planes and helicopters leave a lot to be desired and I find it more difficult flying them than planes and helicopters in 'proper' sims.
If I could just get in my aircraft, flip 1 switch and launch (Like in Arma), that would be amazing. Instead I have a preflight checklist, before start checklist, start-up checklist, after start checklist, pre taxi checks, taxi checks, run up check list, op check list, before take off checklists, after take off checks, another ops check, before climb checklists, enroute checklists, descent checklist, before landing checklist, after landing checks, taxi checks, ops check again, and engine shutdown checklist. Then when you're out of the aircraft you have to inspect the whole thing before signing it back to the squadron.
Each checklist is typically 20-30 steps and many of them are expected to be done from memory. And while you're doing these checklists you're expected to communicate with ATC (air traffic control), talk to your co-pilot and crew, and keep a constant scan of your instruments (in case autopilot does something weird and tries to kill you).
So please keep flying simple, it's better this way. :)
Sorry but no, simulators are quite highly on the ball, so much infact the simulator still used to train pilots is an updated flight sim X. To let you know, all that robotic stuff you are trained to do is for the insurence of the vehicle as you do not own it thus the person who bought it wants to make sure every time you use it you perform that ritual. to actually start a helicopter or airplane and take off is rather easy.
flight Sim X does fine with approches, put enough traffic and you will be doing alot of waiting. You also with Flight sim X have full control over the vehicle dependent on choice ( the 747 for example all its switches work and provide function). DCS warthog is another great example it simulates everything identical minus the radio (its for online)
Even the Huey can be started in about 30 seconds in a hurry. Today computers might have taken over, but you must remember you control that plane first, the computer does it second.
Dude i feel sorry for you military guys. By the time you finsh starting and checking all that worthless nonsense (if your plane is maintained, half of those checks are useless) i will have started mine, taken off and gotton far away long before you even taxied to the runway.
There is a saying in the civilian world. It should take you no more than 5-7 minutes from the starting of the plane, to taking off. of all my years of flying ive yet to have a single issue with all the planes ive flown.
Opening the fuel flow and starting the magneto....and checklists are rather dumb to follow...So you don't fly professionally? And you're probably restricted to VFR correct? I can understand how you would think that PC flight sims are on the ball, since they cater to the VFR only type (Which is no dig on you).
90% accurate is better than 30%. Also a couple of mods normally fix that last 10% (mods always fix everything). Trained on both VFR and IFR (had to learn it to fly at night and in heavy storms). 12 years flying experience though not nearly as many hours as some of the pros who work like robots at times.
and yes any experienced pilot outside a professional company knows those checklists are no good if you actually understand flying more so than just checklists. You think i dont check my plane? i can do your checklist on my plane in around a minute as after all i maintain the plane so i know each time i get in, that it will perform to my expectations. The only time annoyances show up is with the ATC controller who sometimes is just a little too slow on giving me permission to go when im clearly sitting here waiting and on my radar i dont see anything comming in.
That ritual you guys are taught in the military if for politics mostly. In wars ive read checklists not even being followed, the pilots just knew what to do and when to do it.
Also FEDEX and UPS both are doing those ritual for the same reason you are, to keep the boss's happy about their investments. When you fly private you never need to worry about the politics. Just keep the plane maintained and the paperwork in order and the FAA pisses off.
As one who enjoys DCS warthog, that is the only plane where i cannot start it in under 2 minutes. (jet has totally different rules, a royal pain at times comming from a prop my whole life but i learned its the same prinicple but with jet engines, granted starting those Engines is annoying at times i hate the APU) For that pig yes, its a pig it requires 2-4 minutes to start it. The checklist is longer but if you understand the plane a little it aint so bad. Nowadays i can start that pig from its off position in around 2-3 minutes assuming the plane is nice and actually obeys me (that thing is as touchy as a buick at times even following the checklist)
Its like someone who drives go karts for fun trying to give advice to a guy who drives in NASCAR or Formula 1, we live by different codes for good reason.
And we're off topic, my point was that Arma flight mechanics are simple and should be kept that way.
again military pilots, all of them follow politics meaning they will defend that checklist to the death as they were taught. Of course military dont take shortcuts, they are the miltary meaning politics control all even how you fly that plane.
I was merely stating that only people who care about the checklist, are political military pilots, or worse civilian pilots with the mindset if they follow the rules to the letter, they might get something out of it *face palm*.
The largest plane ive flown was with a crew of 3 and we all knew exactly what to do and never had to do the checklist in a tradtional sense. The flight Engineer did his task exactly as i expected, and i did mine as the co-pilot. The captain himself didnt even do the checklist but rather did everything from experience as he put it when i asked about the checklist (when i was a newbie) and yet we took off no issue, performed the task with no issue and returned the plane without a single issue.
We were all professional during that time, but we were not going to act like robots though all of us were trained that way.
Ive even had it when in flight school the teacher had me up at 10,000 and basically stalled the plane and said "You figure it out" i looked at him like he was nuts but i got the message quickly and learned my first lesson about that checklist getting me killed if i followed it all the time. The teacher set it up so even though i followed the checklist to the letter, the plane would not recover and after a while i saw his little trick and leveled off at 8000 once fixing it and i got this message and i wont forget it "That list is there to protect the company and your passangers nothing more, you yourself are responsible for the plane, not this damn list" meaning exactly that, if had no idea how to handle the plane other than through that checklist system then i was not worth the license i was trying to achieve. I would never teach how i was taught (with politics these days you cant learn the way i did)
you can sigh if you wish. Military pilots are all the same. I know my uncle is one he too defends that checklist.
If under a time crunch during an emergency that would result in a worse chance for survival if taking too long, then that is when I'd take my chances with pilots like Not Slim Shady.
By the time you finsh the checklist, and figure out the problem i would have already been finshed thanks to actual experience and understanding of my plane. Those who spend all that time on checklists do so either because they arent confident in their flying, or worse they dont trust the plane given to them or last but not least, their boss's who bought the plane basically made it so because of that investment if you dont follow those checklists well you're basically disrespecting their property
When push comes to shove, you should understand your plane enough not to need that checklist. Do you think WW2 pilots used checklists when their planes gave them trouble? not a chance they actually understood why the plane was messing up from reading of the gauges and the feel of the plane. These days thanks to computers no one actually "Flies" anymore.
How i miss the 70's
again politics play everything in flight involving passangers and the military. private pilots know how to do the checklist, without doing the checklist if you will. When you hear of a pilot reading off the list, that happens in professional envrioments where people watch closely.
I would rather the pro check his plane before he leaves too, but i know he too does the list rather quickly and sometimes avoids one or two and does em from memory. As i said learn your plane you wont need that list nearly as much.