Why is everyone hateing on wasteland?

[ViktAhri]

You are not forced to play it. Not to mention there is a filter for a reason. Its kind of similar to the attitude of people to Dayz. It may not be your cup of tea but you are not forced to play it. So why is it an issue that others do?

[RagingBear]

I don't have a problem with people playing what they want. I have yet to play a multiplayer mode that I really felt was fun. Wasteland is terribad. Stratislife is hilariously bad. Domination is passable. I really just don't like the community. Arma seems to attract people with the most ridiculous egos who act as though they have authority because they have a mic. I saw people have temper tantrums in Arma 2 after they joined a domination server, discovered all the pilot slots were taken, and claimed they were the best pilot on the server and deserved one. Whining and shallow threats followed that basically amounted to "I'll get the admin to kick you!" before he ragequit to get the admin and didn't come back. Stratislife inevitably has one player who asserts he lost his stuff unfairly and will whine ceaselessly in chat until he's booted or someone gives him stuff. Everytime I play Wasteland I hear somebody ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about how everyone is terrible after they die. It reminds me of middle school but it's all grown men. So I don't get the complaints about certain annoying players, they've invaded every section of Arma from the beginning.

[JayEm65]

Wasteland & Ace will be the best mods out there. believe me , samatra & Ace is all i will play. :) but the wasteland guys are working together now for a new wasteland on Altis btw :).

also ive been called a hacker couple of times on server EU 2 famous networks rofl.

[HarambesFistVictim]

Because its full of teamkilling ♥♥♥♥♥. And to me it feels like a large scale COD

[Dirkyd]

Let's say you own a very valuable property, and decide to build your dream home on it. Youre happy for awhile because this home and neighborhoob is everything you've ever wanted. But then the neighborhood beside you is taken over by drug dealers.

At first you don't notice or don't care, because you think maybe they only sell weed and dont realize they sell meth instead. Now before you know it the neighborhood gets overrun by meth heads to the point that they start to spill over into your neighborhood. So in a very short time your property starts to lose value, and now you have to lock up your house and sleep with a gun. Yeah you can keep your house in order, but as soon as you peak out the window you see a once beautiful neighborhood filled with wrecked cars, drive bys, and graffiti. You can't even leave your home without risk, and you struggle to make new friends because you don't know which ones are the meth heads.

Now imagine that in order to expand their business, the dealers decide to start selling crack, and you will see why many people hate wasteland.

[ViktAhri]

iGame360fficial eredeti hozzászólása:

Because its full of teamkilling ♥♥♥♥♥. And to me it feels like a large scale COD

Ok then, don't play it. I think I just solved the problem! Happy to help :D

[oxmox]

Some of the community members are pissed because such mods like wasteland, DayZ and X-Life servers did actually push away some of the major pvp servers on Arma 2. There was a chaos with the server search function since such mods did conflict with Team vs Team pvp and used the same search term. These mods did totally spam the search function and it was hard to find really Team vs Team servers and not one of these mods. There were big pvp servers with sometimes more than 100 players online, interesting modifications like Project Reality, ACE servers, world war 2 mods and so on.....

Some are pissed because such mods did draw attention to players who actually dont care about the game itself as a military sim and rather about a certain mod(s).

Other players are probably pissed because certain mods did attract players who are very different to the Arma community. Massive hacks did show up, less teamplay and coordination and often none mature behaviour without respect to other players, players with FPS shooter gameplay mentality and player from a different genre who dont know about the Arma community which exist since Operation Flashpoint more than ten years ago with a an average higher age than in regular FPS shooters.

Some of the mentioned mods are actually also exactly the opposite of what the Arma community was always proud of, good teamplay and quality gameplay with coordination. Wasteland and DayZ are actually offering an antisocial game where not teamplay is important but only the ego and loot like in mmorpgs. This could be another reason.

There are probably more reasons and it is aswell individuel if someone has an issue with such a modification or the changes in the last months with Arma.

[ViktAhri]

GHOST eredeti hozzászólása:

Let's say you own a very valuable property, and decide to build your dream home on it. Youre happy for awhile because this home and neighborhoob is everything you've ever wanted. But then the neighborhood beside you is taken over by drug dealers.

At first you don't notice or don't care, because you think maybe they only sell weed and dont realize they sell meth instead. Now before you know it the neighborhood gets overrun by meth heads to the point that they start to spill over into your neighborhood. So in a very short time your property starts to lose value, and now you have to lock up your house and sleep with a gun. Yeah you can keep your house in order, but as soon as you peak out the window you see a once beautiful neighborhood filled with wrecked cars, drive bys, and graffiti. You can't even leave your home without risk, and you struggle to make new friends because you don't know which ones are the meth heads.

Now imagine that in order to expand their business, the dealers decide to start selling crack, and you will see why many people hate wasteland.

Ok none of this is even relevant. Imagen this
You have a pet cat, the cat goes outside from time to time and one day it brings you back a mouse. Now we have both given each other mindless hypothetical stories. That was kinda fun wasn't it? I'm not failing to see what you are trying to say, but the idea of not playing game modes you don't like and playing the one you do not only applys, but still solves the problem

[JayEm65]

*full of teamkillers* Oh really? play on some decent wasteland servers like samatra. if they teamkill you too often youre banned from all these samatra servers. wich means once banned , doesnt matter wich server you were banned on you automaticly banned on all Samatra servers.

[Dirkyd]

IRIEVOLTx eredeti hozzászólása:

GHOST eredeti hozzászólása:

Let's say you own a very valuable property, and decide to build your dream home on it. Youre happy for awhile because this home and neighborhoob is everything you've ever wanted. But then the neighborhood beside you is taken over by drug dealers.

At first you don't notice or don't care, because you think maybe they only sell weed and dont realize they sell meth instead. Now before you know it the neighborhood gets overrun by meth heads to the point that they start to spill over into your neighborhood. So in a very short time your property starts to lose value, and now you have to lock up your house and sleep with a gun. Yeah you can keep your house in order, but as soon as you peak out the window you see a once beautiful neighborhood filled with wrecked cars, drive bys, and graffiti. You can't even leave your home without risk, and you struggle to make new friends because you don't know which ones are the meth heads.

Now imagine that in order to expand their business, the dealers decide to start selling crack, and you will see why many people hate wasteland.

Ok none of this is even relevant. Imagen this
You have a pet cat, the cat goes outside from time to time and one day it brings you back a mouse. Now we have both given each other mindless hypothetical stories. That was kinda fun wasn't it? I'm not failing to see what you are trying to say, but the idea of not playing game modes you don't like and playing the one you do not only applys, but still solves the problem

It was fun, and the whole point of the analogy was to show why ignoring the game modes doesn't work for some people. Essentially they feel these game modes are an insult to something they love and feel its being devalued.

[Dirkyd]

Messiah eredeti hozzászólása:

*full of teamkillers* Oh really? play on some decent wasteland servers like samatra. if they teamkill you too often youre banned from all these samatra servers. wich means once banned , doesnt matter wich server you were banned on you automaticly banned on all Samatra servers.

What he is getting at is both dayz/wasteland seem to breed a group of players that when they get angry about mommy not buying them ice cream, they take it out on players trying to enjoy themselves. No this isn't dayz/wasteland players in general, but the group that get jollies from trolling/scripting/being annoying, and the amount of these players have increased in numbers do to dayz/wasteland.

[ViktAhri]

GHOST eredeti hozzászólása:

Messiah eredeti hozzászólása:

*full of teamkillers* Oh really? play on some decent wasteland servers like samatra. if they teamkill you too often youre banned from all these samatra servers. wich means once banned , doesnt matter wich server you were banned on you automaticly banned on all Samatra servers.

What he is getting at is both dayz/wasteland seem to breed a group of players that when they get angry about mommy not buying them ice cream, they take it out on players trying to enjoy themselves. No this isn't dayz/wasteland players in general, but the group that get jollies from trolling/scripting/being annoying, and the amount of these players have increased in numbers do to dayz/wasteland.

I have to agree there. While I have never played wasteland what initially brought me into Arma was the Dayz mod sometime around last June. Now while there will be hackers, trolls and so on in every group but I think it's just more apparent due the the massive popularity of them. That being said however. back when I used to play Dayz it was mostly fun apart from a few issue players here and there. Now days it seems almost all of the players are the problem. SO I can understand where you are coming from.

[JayEm65]

Just ignore thee wasteland server and go play some team death match or some C40. lol

[Dirkyd]

Messiah eredeti hozzászólása:

Just ignore thee wasteland server and go play some team death match or some C40. lol

I usually do, but I personally don't have a problem with wasteland or dayz. If I have any gripe, its that they pull players away from more enjoyable game modes like warfare for example. In my experience a lot of dayz/wasteland players fail to realize that there is a game outside of these modes, and often times other game modes do what they enjoy about day/wasteland better. I will admit wasteland could be interesting on altis, couldn't stand it on stratis.

[JayEm65]

GHOST eredeti hozzászólása:

Messiah eredeti hozzászólása:

Just ignore thee wasteland server and go play some team death match or some C40. lol

I usually do, but I personally don't have a problem with wasteland or dayz. If I have any gripe, its that they pull players away from more enjoyable game modes like warfare for example. In my experience a lot of dayz/wasteland players fail to realize that there is a game outside of these modes, and often times other game modes do what they enjoy about day/wasteland better. I will admit wasteland could be interesting on altis, couldn't stand it on stratis.

im just waiting on ACE.

[WIbigdog]

GHOST eredeti hozzászólása:

I usually do, but I personally don't have a problem with wasteland or dayz. If I have any gripe, its that they pull players away from more enjoyable game modes like warfare for example. In my experience a lot of dayz/wasteland players fail to realize that there is a game outside of these modes, and often times other game modes do what they enjoy about day/wasteland better. I will admit wasteland could be interesting on altis, couldn't stand it on stratis.

If you played wasteland on Chenarus or Takistan you'll understand exactly why it's bad on Stratis. Stratis is just too small, too little space for that many people in a gamemode all about exploring and surviving. The whole draw of wasteland, at least for me and my friends, is that for the most part it's a pretty calm game, collecting weapons and searching for water and food. And then you get the super tense and exhilarating moments when you run across an enemy player. Wasteland is all about the highs and the lows, where warfare and domination are just a solid stream of fighting. At least that's my opinion.