Trees as cover

[Hypereia]

Do trees offer proper cover, or is something wrong? A few times now, I've used a tree as cover, and made sure my entire body was behind a tree (verified with 3rd person, and had shooter directly in front of tree) only to still get killed.

[TreeTop ♿]

Trees= concealment Rocks etc.= cover

[Hypereia]

So, do trees even reduce bullet damage/change trajectory, or do the bullets just act as if the tree isn't even there?

[whiskers]

if it hits the trunk it should stop the bullet. but the tree trunks are usually never thick enough to provide perfect cover.

[Hypereia]

Thanks for the feedback.

[Donoghu]

Also, the caliber of the gun shot affect directly how the tree block it. Trees don't block anything coming from the current vehicules' mounted guns. (Anyway, most of them have some radius damages that reach you even if you're behind the tree.)

Some of the high caliber infantry guns do hit throught the tree with reduced effects. (Especially if you're just next to the tree)

Also, even if you double-checked out of 3rd view perspective, that doesn't mean he doesn't see a elbow or a feet. Unless you could review its killing shot from its perspective, you might not see him as being able to look at you while his position and degree of vision could see even just a small bit of you. (That, for an AI, is as big as a truck to shoot. This game isn't something like Metal Gear Solid where a soldier doesn't even see an arm hanging next to a corner and does nothing. All they need to see is a single "face" of your character collision box to shoot you.)

In other words, only try to use trees as cover if you REALLY have nothing else and might be under fire. Don't use them to hide from their field of view or even from their fire.

[Hypereia]

Originally posted by donoghu:

Also, the caliber of the gun shot affect directly how the tree block it. Trees don't block anything coming from the current vehicules' mounted guns. (Anyway, most of them have some radius damages that reach you even if you're behind the tree.)

Some of the high caliber infantry guns do hit throught the tree with reduced effects. (Especially if you're just next to the tree)

Also, even if you double-checked out of 3rd view perspective, that doesn't mean he doesn't see a elbow or a feet. Unless you could review its killing shot from its perspective, you might not see him as being able to look at you while his position and degree of vision could see even just a small bit of you. (That, for an AI, is as big as a truck to shoot. This game isn't something like Metal Gear Solid where a soldier doesn't even see an arm hanging next to a corner and does nothing. All they need to see is a single "face" of your character collision box to shoot you.)

In other words, only try to use trees as cover if you REALLY have nothing else and might be under fire. Don't use them to hide from their field of view or even from their fire.

Thanks for the in-depth analysis. I suppose I was just being over-confident thinking that because I appear to be fully behind a tree, the infantry firing on me shouldn't be able to damage me.

This certainly clears things up, though.