ARMA 3, PLEASE DONT USE BATTLEYE!

[Jamie]

Bohemia Interactive, 90% of us beg you not to use Battleye, It proved how much it sucked on Arma 2, I was banned after a hacker got hold of my CD key INGAME! and he done somephing to it, no doubt was hacking on my CD key, AND Battleye failed to protect me and 1000s of other players, AND REJECTED MY UNBAN REQUEST!, please use somephing like Punkbuster, and if releaseing on steam only, use VAC2! Thanks BI for your awsome game.

[Ninzus]

can't see the 90% anywhere...

Battleye never failed on me.

[mars]

Originally posted by SYSTEM:

can't see the 90% anywhere...

Battleye never failed on me.

Nor me, not going to lie.
But I would like to see them use VAC.

[M1K3]

battleye does NOT negotiate bans. i got my cd key stole. i havnt been able to play arma 2 OA since. or dayz.

[Reuben5150 (aka) Lonewolf]

There were thousands of hackers on A2, especially Dayz, i know this for a fact, i never had a single problem with BE, nor did the others i played with and ran a server with, doesn't that tell you something ?

[white]

they will use battleeye, on their minds its the only antihack protection that can deal with arma´s scripts. btw hacking will never end now that the game is popular, battleeye never stopped hacking on arma 2, dayz is riddled with hackers to this day. they won´t spend resources on making the game more secure and i even doubt they have the skillset to do it. similar mindset to using the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ gamespy serverbrowser, gamespy is already closed and dead, valve/steam has a way superior serverbrowser with integrated friendslist and bohemia insists on using the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥ serverbrowser because they dont care about their consumers.

[Ninzus]

Wow, so many Anti-Hack specialists here, that know perfectly how to handle business decisions in the IT business...

[✪ Thunderking ✪]

BE have worked just fine for me since arma 1, heck seeing your excuse. it's your own damn fault you got your key stolen, next time try not to download cheats or none trusted mods.

[dong king]

*Agree

[white]

Originally posted by RunForrest:

oh btw hi mr white banned on biforums now trolling here? lol

Never left here, banned for speaking the truth in there. Caugh a developer lying and made him accountable, asked him about it and he went silent, then moderador pm´d me saying if i kept calling them liars i would be banned, i asked for a synonim for someone that said something untrue on purpose, or answers, and he said if i kept at it i would be banned. I don´t give a ♥♥♥♥ about being banned on a private company forum ran by teenagers, i´m doing people a favor so they are able to hear something other than fanboy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

And they closed the biggest topic on the forum about the biggest performance issue on this game. They couldnt argue against me in the first place so they stupidly called me a troll in order for less enlightened fanboys know their excuse for banning me.

One thing anyone knows, the recommended specs for this game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. They care about only one thing, get peoples money for a rushed game that is milking ArmA´s brand name, will come to a point that even fanboys will get past denial. Dean Hall said it, "ArmA 3 supports LESS players and LESS ai than ArmA 2" and still they say ArmA 3 has better performance. is a joke.

But guess what, they used to say that noone could call them out on performance issues because it was an alpha, well, now alpha is over and what i said from day 1 stands.

[Turd]

Originally posted by RG-O Jamie Got Dishonored!:

Bohemia Interactive, 90% of us beg you not to use Battleye, It proved how much it sucked on Arma 2, I was banned after a hacker got hold of my CD key INGAME! and he done somephing to it, no doubt was hacking on my CD key, AND Battleye failed to protect me and 1000s of other players, AND REJECTED MY UNBAN REQUEST!, please use somephing like Punkbuster, and if releaseing on steam only, use VAC2! Thanks BI for your awsome game.

Maybe you shouldn't of downloaded "Free Hacks" off the internet and your CD key wouldn't of been stolen.

[white]

Originally posted by RunForrest:

@white
Well performance wise u got a point, and i also think the game is bad optimized at least and imo its also true that ArmA doesnt use all of the PCs recources BUT its early beta, and im almost 100% sure they will improve perfomance. WHEN they do that is the other question. In the past (ArmA 1 + 2) big performance improvements were made ca. 1 year after game release or later. I expect the same regarding ArmA3, maybe a bit faster this time. So its nothing new. If u played the series in the past u know what to expect. And ofcourse BIS will not say more beforehand. But that doesnt mean they lie AND it certainly isnt a good idea to go to their official forums and behave in a way like u did (i would define that as trollling too) If u dont like it, dont play it. The time WILL come when ArmA 3 is in a well patched status and than maybe u will join and enjoy the game like others already did before. Im also not sure if i will be among those players, if im not i have no probem with that, i knew what to expect when i bought ArmA3.
Im still quite happy with ArmA2, the longer the better and when ArmA3 will be in an acceptable status for me hardware prices will be low enough to get a decent rig for cheap money :)

dwarden said no games scale well with multicore or have high usage across all cores while saying arma engine is already multicore implyign that it already makes proper use of multicore processors, which makes it a lie since the main game and the ai that account for most of the cpu power needed use each only 1 thread, so both don´t use more than 2 cores, yeah they filled other cores with physx and clouds, great improvement. others said that the reason they wont go for 64bit is because they want legacy with old hardware, which is a lie since the game requires dx10 and need current gen cpus in order to perform well. arma 2 wasnt all that optimized, people bought better cpus over the years that´s why it got acceptable, but to this day it still suffers from the same issues that now ArmA 3 suffers on online play with a lot of players and ai. dwarden was proven wrong on the forum, and i directly asked him questions about his statements, he never replied with an answer for more than 2 months, thats when i got tired of all their evasive empty statements and called him out saying he was a liar, nothing changed and he remained silent.

Those things i mentioned aren´t bugs and can´t be optimized, its the core of their engine. The reason they remain silent is because they can´t do anything about it but be quiet, pretend its nothing and let people buy their game anyway, and that´s why they announced a blog about it, to make excuses about the bad online performance. The entire gaming industry is going towards more cores, specially now with 8 cores consoles. It´s not a problem having a 10 year old engine, it becomes a problem when it´s not updated to use current hardware. The game isn´t cpu intensive, the game simply does not use more than 2 cores properly, and that won´t change because this kind of thing is altered at max in alpha. the "it´s only an alpha" excuse was just stalling, and since they have plenty of fanboys defendign them, they won´t be held accountable for it. people with better than recommended specs will keep complaining about fps and other users will keep telling them to try dangerous overclocks or buy $500 cpus for a game that could run very well on $100 ones.

Rocket stating that ArmA 3 is worse and ArmA 2, when he works for bohemia and has access to its developers and the code was the last straw, they are fulyl aware of the engines limitations and simply prefer to launch a rushed game than fix it. Like Rocket said, they are reworking the engine for DayZ SA, but ArmA 3 is ArmA 2 with new dx support.

[Doc_Hille]

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[Dwarden]

if your account or key is stolen and then abused for cheating then you get globally banned by BE, PB or VAC equally ...
so this argument against BE is dismissed ... BE does extremely well against cheaters ...

[Scampiscampai]

no VAC, I have had bad experiences and just ruin the game

[vipp]

Originally posted by Dwarden:

if your account or key is stolen and then abused for cheating then you get globally banned by BE, PB or VAC equally ...
so this argument against BE is dismissed ... BE does extremely well against cheaters ...

Not really. I literally just downloaded a few mod files I needed for a server and was globally banned for it. None of the mods were cheats. When I contacted Bohemia for help they sent me to battle eye who did not even respond to me. BE is ♥♥♥♥.