Arma 3
Sleepy Joe Nov 9, 2013 @ 3:06pm
LED full HD TV or PC Monitor ?
hi .. i need help .. i have to buy new monitor but i dont know what better .. i would like to buy new full hd Led tv with hdmi but i am confused about the qualy in ARMA gameplay online .. reaction time .. is it the same if i try to shoot someone ? pls help who is playing with led full hd tv?!!!and thx for answering :ALTIS:
Last edited by Sleepy Joe; Nov 9, 2013 @ 3:45pm
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J. Bond Nov 9, 2013 @ 3:26pm 
You don't say what screen size.

I would go for a 27" IPS monitor.

Something like this:

http://goo.gl/4hGeYg

For gaming you want a response time as low as possible, which if you go for a TV, you will not get. Or maybe only if you buy a very expensive one...
Sleepy Joe Nov 9, 2013 @ 3:34pm 
about screen size .. i think 24 - 32 inch / zoll
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Russ Angel Nov 9, 2013 @ 4:10pm 
I have a Toshiba 42 inch LED full HD connected with HDMI from a GTX580 and it runs perfectly.No problems whatsoever.All my games on Steam and what I have on retail run without a problem and no lag or bad response at all.Spend about £500 and your laughing.I have ARMA3 running like a dream.A friend of mine has his running on a Sony Bravia and he has no problems either,and someone else I know bought a newer Sony recently,again no problem.His card is an ATI but I forget which one.I think this is a bit of a myth myself.Also my friends two sons have large screen TVs for DOTA without any issues at all.
СֳƷ Nov 9, 2013 @ 4:34pm 
Originally posted by Midnight Rider:
hi .. i need help .. i have to buy new monitor but i dont know what better .. i would like to buy new full hd Led tv with hdmi but i am confused about the qualy in ARMA gameplay online .. reaction time .. is it the same if i try to shoot someone ? pls help who is playing with led full hd tv?!!!and thx for answering :ALTIS:
the main difference bewteen a 1080p tv and a 1080p monitor is a tv tuner.
also tv's tend to have a lot more varied inputs and outputs.

the actual specifications of the display are what you need to take notice of and do your research on.

personally, i would go with a high quality tv over any 1080p monitor on the market. dedicated computer monitors have i/o limitations and the displays are no better than a good tv...

if it's for desktop use, i mean if you plan to sit with your face close to it at all times, i wouldn't recommend going over 37".
but if you plan to sit back further, like on a sofa or something, get the biggest 1080p tv you can afford...
Russ Angel Nov 9, 2013 @ 5:11pm 
There you are dude go for it.Everyone that I know has or is getting one.I also forgot,I have a Sony in the front room as well which I havent tried yet,I bet it works perfect though.I could never go back to my original computer monitor now.
BRT Cobra Nov 10, 2013 @ 12:40am 
full hd led pc monitor
Sleepy Joe Nov 10, 2013 @ 3:07am 
thank you all
niick1402 Nov 10, 2013 @ 3:18am 
buy a pc monitor i have hard time spotting enemies because i'm not close enough to my screen
oldwrld Nov 10, 2013 @ 4:15am 
Get a monitor. HDTV's have bad ghosting with none below 6ms unless you pay 3000$. The average HDTV as well can only do 60hz so spenting 1200$ for example of a 42 inch HDTV is rather foolish, as that HDTV will only do 1080p while for that same 1200$ you can buy a 27 inch monitor capable of 2560X1440.

You should buy the 27 inch monitor if your rig can handle it.
Sleepy Joe Nov 11, 2013 @ 9:51pm 
yea i go for a monitor .. this one ASUS LED-Monitor VG278HR 27 inch with nvidea 3D vision kit couse i got NVIDEA GTX PHYSIX GPU with 3D vision and for high performanse with best reaction time ( 2ms ) i ll go for that one monitor .. thank you all but i think who want best performance and like to play more then to look tv so he need and an monitor :D as always GG GL@HF BB :ALTIS:
Sgt. Flaw Nov 11, 2013 @ 10:48pm 
T.V's are fine..they do a lot better than they use to...I game about 5 feet from a 40" and it's great.just make sure the response time is rated below 20ms lower than thats a wash out...that said I'd go 1440p if I had to get a new one...
oldwrld Nov 12, 2013 @ 3:57am 
Originally posted by Masterflaw:
T.V's are fine..they do a lot better than they use to...I game about 5 feet from a 40" and it's great.just make sure the response time is rated below 20ms lower than thats a wash out...that said I'd go 1440p if I had to get a new one...

Are you high? 20ms is beyond laggy and ghosty. Seriously dont speak about HDTV's or monitors if you havent the slightest clue about em or how they work. If the TV does not have 10ms at the minimum or 6ms (like 90% of 60hz monitors) then the TV is trash regardless of its size and ghosting will be heavily present. My monitor is one of the rated 1ms monitors and its quite obvious when looking at it, and a 25-30ms HDTV how different they are.

The OP should only get a 27 inch monitor if he can afford it. With that he will have higher res, higher color output and of course depending on the cash spent a 120hz monitor.
Last edited by oldwrld; Nov 12, 2013 @ 3:58am
oldwrld Nov 12, 2013 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by Crackhead88:
Originally posted by The "coach":
Get a monitor. HDTV's have bad ghosting with none below 6ms unless you pay 3000$. The average HDTV as well can only do 60h

Wow, When was the last time you went into a store that sells HDTV's?

120hz and higher is standard.

6ms = $3000????..... Ya.... maybe nearly 10 years ago

Dont be a food now. There aint no native 120hz tvs other tha 3DHDTV's. I know quite a bit about how both monitors and HDTV's work. My 120hz monitor can do what your HDTV cannot, which is ghost much less, have a better response time (1ms is faster than a 20ms HDTV).

Also no 120hz is not the standard for HDTVs (not counting 3DHDTV's, and 90% of HDTV's have intropolation meaning its fake inserting of a frame to create an illusion of smoother but in reality it isnt. Also yes a 6ms HDTV is around 3000$. The lowest you can get for 1200$ is 20ms which is really ghosty.

Also HDTV's are sold via biased informations such as some having 4ms when in reality by design the HDTV has a 20-30ms and some worse as high as 60 marketed as 4 and lower. Monitors are not as easy to fake as a HDTV thus when it says 1ms you can assume the monitor is between 1ms and 4ms.

I own a HDTV and a 120hz asus 3D ready monitor and the HDTV has a 120hz introplation freature which i leave off as the HDTV is native 60hz.

Getting a 4-6ms 24 inchmonitor is around 230$ for decent quality so a 34 inch HDTV with a 4-6 ms would be around 1200$ at the minimum with 2300$ on the high side

Also HDMI cannot support 120hz you need a DVI-D for that.
Last edited by oldwrld; Nov 12, 2013 @ 5:57am
TheScotsman Nov 12, 2013 @ 12:11pm 
Well the coach is correct guys but at the same time im assuming the people who choose to play with large screens are playing with a controller or at the very least wireless mouse + keyboard which opens another can of worms for elitiests. So you wont see the fine details since you are at a fair distance away and even up close the quality is not affected if your hardware or tv can only support a certain resolution.

None the less if you think bigger is better or a cheap hd tv is equal to expensive hd tvs, 3d tvs or monitors you are greatly mistaken. Quality of a hd tv in terms of colours, response time and not to mention frequency and native resolution is what defines the quality of the product.

Theres a reason whys theres cheap and expensive products of monitors, tvs or anything else but if you purchase a hd ready 1080p monitor with a response time of around 40 - 60ms which is average even for top end tvs then you wont get the same exerience as the rest of us on 1 - 6ms monitors with far greater colour range, higher native resolutions and the list goes on.

So this is what i can only suggest purchase a great monitor 27ich+ @ 1080p minumum (4k is just to expensive for the average joe), look at response time, colour range, frequency, input slots etc or if you really did want a good tv then you wont find one which is the equivalent of a top end pc monitor for half the price assuming you dont look at crap tvs.
Sgt. Flaw Nov 12, 2013 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by The "coach":
Originally posted by Masterflaw:
T.V's are fine..they do a lot better than they use to...I game about 5 feet from a 40" and it's great.just make sure the response time is rated below 20ms lower than thats a wash out...that said I'd go 1440p if I had to get a new one...

Are you high? 20ms is beyond laggy and ghosty. Seriously dont speak about HDTV's or monitors if you havent the slightest clue about em or how they work. If the TV does not have 10ms at the minimum or 6ms (like 90% of 60hz monitors) then the TV is trash regardless of its size and ghosting will be heavily present. My monitor is one of the rated 1ms monitors and its quite obvious when looking at it, and a 25-30ms HDTV how different they are.

The OP should only get a 27 inch monitor if he can afford it. With that he will have higher res, higher color output and of course depending on the cash spent a 120hz monitor.
Your reccomending a 120hz monitor for Arma???...are you high???no system is ever going to need 120 hz for this game.

20 MS and below is considered very good and little difference is noticed below that. 8ms and below is very good...32 plus is pushing it.

An 8ms HDTV is fine for those who don't suffer tech placebo...you can't tell the difference below that.


For your money...yes one to one your going to get a better monitor...obviously..but there are options for HDTV's that are quite decent for PCgaming. Not to mention ms response times and contrast ratio's are usually just marketing numbers...they hold no bearing to the actual quality of the product as they can be skewed quite easily.
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