Arma 3
Toast Nov 14, 2014 @ 12:46am
Hacks that remotely control other players
Seems to be running rampant right now; happened several times to me while running a server. Is this being addressed?
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Mirudes Nov 14, 2014 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by toast:
Seems to be running rampant right now; happened several times to me while running a server. Is this being addressed?
Use Google (Or Bing) for the search in the ArmA3 "Feedback-" Bug-Tracker:
Please use terms like "spectate, respawn, remote or camera"

Example:
0019705: JIP spectators can mess with alive players action menu
http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=19705

Did you played with mods? What happend exactly? Do you use teamviewer or a desktop remote control software? What mission was played, on what server does it happend?
Pèpè Silvia Nov 14, 2014 @ 9:42am 
Does the server you're playing on have an active admin present, or is it just a daycare?
Toast Nov 14, 2014 @ 11:47am 
It was a locally hosted server, which I was hosting. Essentially a player would "remotely" control my character. I have no idea how this happened. But I lost control of my character, and started firing on everyone else and spawning helicopters and artillery strikes on friendlies. This happened twice on different maps I was hosting.

I could no longer access the "players" tab either, so I couldn't even kick them out. The only resort was to quitting out.

I'm gonna just start running a dedicated server and set up a server.cfg. Hopefully that will prevent further exploits.

I think this is what is happening
"Reports have been circulated of a script exploit that allows a non-admin player to force an in-game admin to issue Admin commands."
Last edited by Toast; Nov 14, 2014 @ 11:54am
AbsoluteBS Nov 14, 2014 @ 4:33pm 
i have experienced this two days in a row on chimera test server.....
Dwarden  [developer] Nov 14, 2014 @ 9:40pm 
Originally posted by AbsoluteBS:
i have experienced this two days in a row on chimera test server.....

which one ...
Dwarden  [developer] Nov 14, 2014 @ 9:42pm 
Originally posted by toast:
I think this is what is happening
"Reports have been circulated of a script exploit that allows a non-admin player to force an in-game admin to issue Admin commands."

more likely insecure servers (incorrect configuration) , pay attention to this:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/server.cfg#Server_Security
Toast Nov 14, 2014 @ 11:31pm 
Originally posted by Dwarden:
Originally posted by toast:
I think this is what is happening
"Reports have been circulated of a script exploit that allows a non-admin player to force an in-game admin to issue Admin commands."

more likely insecure servers (incorrect configuration) , pay attention to this:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/server.cfg#Server_Security

Hey I really appreciate the response Dwarden.

It sounds like that without a server.cfg, there is no admin password, and anyone can exploit the host in this manner? Am I correct?

So essentially running a locally hosted match has no real security provisions? I was googling last night and it seems you need to be running a dedicated server to do so.

I was trying to find a way to load a server.cfg locally, but not sure it is possible.

Either way, I'm gonna run a dedicated server from now on, just worried I will have some preformance issues since I only have a mid-range pc.

Either way, thanks for the input.
AbsoluteBS Nov 15, 2014 @ 5:06am 
Originally posted by Dwarden:
Originally posted by AbsoluteBS:
i have experienced this two days in a row on chimera test server.....

which one ...

just seen this it was chimera 3pv US wish i could remember what time it was night for me afternoon for you , i dont know how to bring up the player list or id have had a list of players on at that time , there werent many on i knew you would want to know, also experienced something this morning where someone landed my helo right next to them and killed me threw me out and debowed my ride.....i ragequit after that so xagain cant identify player...

also around the obj i flew out of heli and landed inside the top level of the tower 4 and lived lol it was sooo a pewee herman "i meant to do that moment"

also the next time i tried to join the server it kicked me and said it was because battleye was not responding. hope this helps im tired so probably havent made any sense. i did also notice a player named administrator kept trying to join aand the server was kicking them, it could be server slotting players into the admin spots like was said before but they are actually controlling the avatar/ vehicle

seems practical to test hacks on a test server to see if it will hold up in the next iterations? the sad negative to public server testing :(
Last edited by AbsoluteBS; Nov 15, 2014 @ 5:14am
Mirudes Nov 15, 2014 @ 6:35am 
So it is not a join-in-progress bug or a glitch when 2 players boarding a vehicle at the same time.

Probably, the bug tracker is not the right place for known hacks.

I doubt that the test servers are running without admin-pw.
Does this really happens with BattlEye activated?

Maybe it is harmful software on the server.
In order to obtain unjustified Admin rights, Rootkits are often used.
Toast Nov 15, 2014 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Mirudes:
So it is not a join-in-progress bug or a glitch when 2 players boarding a vehicle at the same time.

Probably, the bug tracker is not the right place for known hacks.

I doubt that the test servers are running without admin-pw.
Does this really happens with BattlEye activated?

Maybe it is harmful software on the server.
In order to obtain unjustified Admin rights, Rootkits are often used.

No it is not a glitch. And since I was locally hosting, likely (pretty sure) there was no admin password. And there is no "harmful" software on the server.

The first time I was driving a vehicle in a coop mission and suddenly my character seemed to "glitch out" of the car where it appeared I was still sitting in the car, but my character was moving around. After a minute my character uncontrollably started firing on friendlies. Thinking this was a glitch, I quit out.

The second time it happened in the same night in a different coop mission. A group of us were standing around waiting for a scripted helicoptor to land. All of a sudden an artillery strike wiped us all out and killed us. While spectating it showed my character "toast" spawning in helicoptors and other ordinance. It really did appear like I was doing the actions, when instead I was spectating myself. So I really had no idea who it was. I could not access the player tab with the J command, and had to quit out. Someone else called out another player "Simean" for hacking, and he promptly left.
He also had a 300+ ping, so maybe that's a way to tell.

Last edited by Toast; Nov 15, 2014 @ 12:11pm
Dwarden  [developer] Nov 15, 2014 @ 9:37pm 
if that's on my servers then it indicates kick for something you played before joining my servers

to sort it , open editor, open Altis map, close, join my KOTH CHIMERA server, all fine

it's known bug with some scripting memory not cleaning up from previous mission

we already tried fix it but there were some nasty side-ffects, so correct cleaning is still WIP

p.s. do you remember what you exactly do just before the kick ?
Last edited by Dwarden; Nov 15, 2014 @ 9:48pm
AbsoluteBS Nov 20, 2014 @ 2:45am 
frequently im finding whenever in high population server (usually ping less than 50 avg of 24) alot of players with 200 300+ ping rates and when im riding in vehicle with them as pilot im at the objective but they are still at spawn pad sitting in helicopter, i find it strange can they be lagging or i am rubberbanding but both apparently have real time frame rates? , have noticed the control stuff has subsided but the above is everytime i join a vehicle crew with others could this be somehow related?

and alot of multiple team players , one guy wil be on two teams at once? or is that the admin slot?

also the frame rate indicator in the menu seems incorrect i can run easy 30 on low pop server but seems it goes to around 45 max still the indicator hovers around 8 its hard to eyeball it because over 20 you cant detect the frame switching.
Was playing on the 77th JSOC invade and annex server yesterday (the best server on the browser in my opinion!) and it got hacked... Everyone froze up and ended up with a traffic cone on their heads... then it went into some crazy disco mode with tons of coloured smoke and flashing lights before launching everyone into the sky falling to their doom. We could not do anything, could not even bring up the menu to exit the game. Had to ctrl-alt-delete to close the game. Scumbags ruining everyone elses fun just for the hell of it.... also was playing with a group the otherday and they got hacked in the same way you are describing... someone took control of one of the guys characters and started team killing everyone. something needs to be done coz this sucks!
AbsoluteBS Nov 20, 2014 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by EdF4ce:
Was playing on the 77th JSOC invade and annex server yesterday (the best server on the browser in my opinion!) and it got hacked... Everyone froze up and ended up with a traffic cone on their heads... then it went into some crazy disco mode with tons of coloured smoke and flashing lights before launching everyone into the sky falling to their doom. We could not do anything, could not even bring up the menu to exit the game. Had to ctrl-alt-delete to close the game. Scumbags ruining everyone elses fun just for the hell of it.... also was playing with a group the otherday and they got hacked in the same way you are describing... someone took control of one of the guys characters and started team killing everyone. something needs to be done coz this sucks!

they tried it tonight on chimera i was standing at obj and started flying through the air and dropped out of the sky....didnt die but froze up and it is laggy as hell. i dont think its the server so much as the lot of hacks and people with 6-800 ping ....and it constantly says im losing connection ....better talk to my isp because im paying for a 100mbps connection and i am getting it
Last edited by AbsoluteBS; Nov 20, 2014 @ 8:55pm
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