How do I do the crash landing in the VR training for Autorotation blade?

[Slothsy]

No matter what tactic I do I can not even touch down before it says I've done it wrong, going fast as it tells me doesn't give me enough to time lower the collective THEN raise it again just to land, then it it says you need to maintain altitude which is impossible when you're using a keyboard since you need speed and height, which when using the advanced helicopter controls I find it difficult to do, would someone kindly explain in more detail how I land without needed it do it more than 20 times (Already on my 14th try) :)

[Jusad]

having the same problem here. but i already crashlanded safely a few times and the game still thinks that i failed

[McSniffles]

I just attempted it in teh VR and put up a little video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1-ByBaF9Q

[Vitdom]

1. Gain speed w/o losing alt.
2. Engine failure.
3. Lower the collective to preserve rotor RPM.
4. Convert your forward momentum to a stable altitude just above ground level by tilting up.
5. When groundspeed is 0, start raising your collective and smooth out the touch-down by finishing with max collective.

[stblade]

Awesome!! Thanks this video helped a lot. After 2 hours of failed attempts, I got it right on the next try after the video!!

Originally posted by McSniffles:

I just attempted it in teh VR and put up a little video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg1-ByBaF9Q

[Mind Man]

Video doesn't help at all, the same thing happens.

[Mirudes]

Originally posted by Baron Von Walrus:

Video doesn't help at all, the same thing happens.

You must watch the movie and do all the things. Then it will help.

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[Evil Andy]

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video doesn't help at all, I watched the whole thing and I did exactly what the guy did in the video and it didn't work.

[NZPorterDJ]

Originally posted by Bolt_Road | GOTY:

The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video doesn't help at all, I watched the whole thing and I did exactly what the guy did in the video and it didn't work.

Then you didn't do it right! Watch the video again and retry until you are doing it CORRECTLY!.

If you continue to fail then that's a personal problem and I don't do personal problems.

[Daxx]

It takes a lot of practice to learn how to do it right,most common mistake is that people try to slow down too early or too high. You need to have a lot of hours to be able to 'feel' the helicopter before it becomes second nature. A good pilot will be able to autorotate safely 99/100 times given the opportunity and a good landing area. Don't get discouraged just because you can't do it after a few hours of trying

[Teh Stig]

Note this is much easier with the advanced flight control on.

Also the tail rotor failure (I couldn't complete that with standard controls after an hour and a half, with advanced controls completed it on my second attempt). Fine collective control makes all the difference, lets you put it down nice and soft.

[Quantum Maniac]

Im pretty sure its not possible. Imagine taking a helicopter moving through the air. Then imagine it becomes a rock. What your trying to do is tilt the rock so it glides. Thats not how you physics.

[NathaN]

Originally posted by RizeF3ind | kickback.com:

Im pretty sure its not possible. Imagine taking a helicopter moving through the air. Then imagine it becomes a rock. What your trying to do is tilt the rock so it glides. Thats not how you physics.

Its a real thing. You think they made it up????
And its not a rock.....its a helicopter with rotors and moving parts designed for flight.

[Ketzl]

Ok so the video is crap for 1 reason and that is because you cannot see what he is doing. The most common mistake i was doing, and why i was falling like a rock, was that i thought collective = throttle, this is not the case. When you find your helicopter suffers engine failure it was my first instinct to push the throttle all the way up, all this meant was that my helo was attempting to gain altitude whilst having a knackered engine.

The first trick is when your engine dies is to immediately lower the collective, this allows your rotors to keep spinning, as they are no longer trying to go 100% and keep you the same height, theyre only trying to stay moving. By keeping your rotors moving you can glide. Whilst youre gliding in the air everything after this becomes possible, but without moving rotors you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

So now youve got a nice glide, you can theoretically land like this in a ghosthawk with landing gear down and a nice little bit of throttle at the end. Would not advise however as you need a nice big runway. Your next issue is how fast you're going. you've got a lot of forwards momentum and you're unlikely to survive if. Luckily you can convert that momentum nicely.

If youve spent more than about an hour flying helos you've probably noticed that you can rapidly increase your altitude and decrease your groundspeed by lifting the nose up. Its a simple trick that is quite often used to land,as you can change your forwards momentum into vertical momentum. Now when landing normally you dont much care for the upwards momentum you gain, and would rather you just bleed the forwards slowly. However it suddenly becomes very useful in this situation. You want to get rid of your forwards momentum and slowing your now mostly uncontrolled descent. Both parts are fulfilled with this.

So now you want to tilt the nose of your helo back. The preserved speed of your rotors should not change, you should still have really low collective, but you should see your forwards speed and your vertical descent decrease. Now for the final part because youre not safe til youre on the ground.

The final part is that once youve killed your groundspeed you want to slowly increase your collective as you come in to land. Try to ease it in to the landing rather than put it too full all at once. It is absolutely vital that you have moving rotors during this section of the landing, this is the reason why you killed the collective earlier.

THIS WILL BE DIFFICULT ON YOUR FIRST TRY
But you need to persevere with it because this is the skilled section of the landing. This is the part where you are mostly likely to ♥♥♥♥ up. Try and try again til you have the hang of it.

[Ablomis]

One advice:
- Turn on the advanced flying model
- spent an hour trying to land it on standard
- then landed it from the first try with advanced

I'm not sure it is even possible with standard model

[Shini]

Both are possible with standard model though it seemed pretty impossible. I think the best thing I did was to realize what the gauges did. Using a keyboard and mouse setup without a trackIR I couldn't even see my gauges. I eventually double tapped alt to lock it into look mode to be able to watch my gagues easier and then just used keyboard to make all my adjustments.

Keeping your RPM up around 70-90 will control your decent. this is mostly done with lowering your collective and adjusting your pitch once I did that the markers turned green and I just made minor adjustments as I finished gliding in to keep my rpms up which keeps your from dropping like a rock.

The tail crash was easier but harder I think. Easier because I had learned a lot from the first crash landing. Harder in that in the last few feet when I needed to slow down I had to start countering torque a lot. to keep my speed low enough not to flip my bird when i touched the ground. I ended up touching soft and smooth after maybe 5-10 attempts.